The Labour Party continues to troll women

Interesting comments under The Times article on this the hiring of MB.

A poster "Mr Mildy Annoyed" says:

"Presumably, they are gambling on the youth and women's vote to fill in the gaps left by the working man vote"

and gets 57 "likes". Seems some people are still not getting the message!

The first response is from a woman saying, er NO! This is not going to get the woman's vote, with 90 likes and then various other people pointing out that Mr Mildly Annoyed seems to have missed the point a little.

You'll have one backing up the other, and they'll get competitive transphobia shouting.

Actually it may be a smart move re PR as it takes focus off LM. The two token TIMs. I bet he'll give LM a run for his money and I will lay money on the fact the two of them won't get on. LM will feel excluded I'm sure so he accuse MB of Transphobia? Got you LM!

Or a pig?

But if it’s a feeling - so not based on gender stereotypes: I like pink so I’m a girl - how do you know that you don’t actually just feel like a geranium?

It's all so unbelievably childish. 'I'm a woman because I say so and you have to agree with me or you're being mean!'

My 3 year old has a better grasp of material reality and a more mature negotiating stance.

Like a trendy sociology lecturer being ‘down with the kids, hey!’

Have they forgotten that people over 30 can vote? This whole desperately chasing the youth vote look is downright undignified on a man Corbyn's age

He really is a prat.

AskBasil
Is Margaret Beckett on record anywhere as supporting Self-ID? Or is it just that she hasn't publicly come out against it? She is my MP and am just in process of writing to her.
She can't be worried about deselection what with her standing in the LP and also the fact she is unlikely to stand again at next election anyway.

Sorry can't remember who said it, but I agree about lily madigan constantly blocking people. Lily says they want to be the first trans MP- well if you're an MP you can't block people who disagree with you in RL.
They might abuse you, even threaten you one week, and next week need help with their benefits.
As an MP you have to get a thick skin & get on with the job.

I know a Labour MP who loves to sneer at women. Complete Corbyn arse licker. He loves referring to her as Harriet Harperson and ridiculing her as if it's hilarious. These women are either clueless or colluding in the misogyny because what? They don't care?

It's beginning to make me feel actually depressed. Really, really down. I don't want to become bitter, but it's hard. My whole political world has shifted and it's unsettled me. I find myself full of contempt for the left. Like I despise them and am just so angry all the time.

I look at that photo of Madigan with Corbyn, the grinning, and I genuinely can't stand them. I mean real proper loathing. What have these people done to us? To women. To the party. I'm overwhelmed.

Harriet Harman - who publicly supported PIE

Harriet Harman recently said that she fully supports Self ID. So disappointed, I always rated her.

Why the fuck are Harriet Harman, Tessa Jowell, Margaret Beckett et al meekly accepting these willy waving males telling them what's what?

How can they be sitting there watching this happening to their party?

Where is their self-respect?

I thought Harriet Harman was a bit of a handmaiden when she allowed Brown and Blair to fuck single mothers over, but at least she did that in order to wring much better concessions out of them the year after (by which time lots of single mothers had had nervous breakdowns, but hey ho, long term etc.).

But this?

Where are the women in the Labour Party? What's happened to them?

Oh. Bold fail. Sorry.

* ...it did make me think that the issues in the CLPs seem to be just specifically where TAs are very active and are pushing it and where there are no TAs active in a CLP it's going under the radar.*

I think this is true. I ccd our CLP (SE, affluent Tory voting area) on my grand flounce email when I resigned my membership. A lovely local woman emailed me by return and we had several exchanges where I sent her some MN threads and some online articles and resources. She subsequently peak-transed and vowed to take it up with others.

Yes, I take your point Gacapa and I haven't decided who to vote for yet because I'm not actually a Labour supporter.

However, what struck me was not that so much as that he really hadn't heard about it and that the feeling you get online that all CLPs are all bought into trans activism and that anybody who isn't is on 'the wrong side of history' might not be the case.

Which has to be of some comfort, doesn't it?

Because I too sometimes feel we're living in an episode of the twilight zone and it does my head in. I'm grasping at straws I guess...

It doesn't matter if particular candidates are against self-ID. They vote how they are whipped to vote. So it's party policy which is important.

Of course some may vote against, but it'd take a lot to convince someone it's worth jeopardising their career/standing in the party and other associated ostracism.

I'd be very, very wary of any candidate of any party claiming he or she would never vote for something, even if whipped to do so.

I don't know if this resonates with anyone who is actually a member of a CLP ?

My CLP is anti self-ID but too scared of membership, compliance and regional to pass a motion on it.

I think this TA thing in Labour is very patchy. I was canvassed by my Labour councillor at the weekend.

Normally I just explain that I'm a Lib Dem (actually stood in the ward 10 years ago) and let them get on their way. But this time i wanted to let him know i was so upset about Self ID and the GRA and any man that just says they're a woman getting access to changing rooms & AWS etc.

He'd never heard of it, I had to explain it all to him. He started saying (as I also pointed out I was no fan of Jeremy Corbyn) 'oh but this is local not national' and I pointed out to him that schools, sports centres etc etc would all be affected by this. To his credit, he saw straight away that it was a safeguarding issue for women and said that neither he or any of the other candidates would support Self ID.

Which was comforting, I have to say.

But it did make me think that the issues in the CLPs seem to be just specifically where TAs are very active and are pushing it and where there are no TAs active in a CLP it's going under the radar.

I don't know if this resonates with anyone who is actually a member of a CLP ?

I have no idea what's going on with the Lib Dem's, I'm not very active now. Although I got a request to deliver leaflets, do I might just check before I say yes!

So the Labour party is ignoring its own members of a democratic organisation for fancy volunteers who don't belong to the party and whose previous experience was having nice hair....

And if Lansmann become General Sec, I may have to stop voting Labour.

Donors?

Could that be the key to all this?

Ah. They are the wrong type of Labour LGBT and not members of the correct faction.

Awesome.

That is truly amazing.