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Have you been publicly gender critical?

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SwearyG · 25/02/2018 18:39

I'm considering "coming out" as gender critical ahead of the WPUK meeting on Tuesday to suggest that my friends attend the meeting too as I really think we need to debate, discuss and push back against what is being said by the TRAs. I've tried it in person a few times and most people have taken what I've said quite well, with my younger friends doing mental gymnastics to keep TIMs as women in their heads, though they can't accept my anorexia analogy on that.

So I've written a lengthly post for Facebook saying that people need to think about the rollback of women's rights in the name of progression and how the opportunity to talk is coming on Tuesday but am not quite brave enough to press post. Has anyone done this with any success or is it best to keep fighting anonymously?

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OrderOnline · 25/02/2018 19:12

Yes. I have rid myself of fake friends long ago. I don't have a public service career to concern me. I lost no friends I already left the Labour party and many friends have become stealth TERFs. My family are not against me either, they don't do anything other than listen they mostly laugh at scared politicians and notions of men saying they can get pregnant.

ijustwannadance · 25/02/2018 19:09

The only problem is that the new wave of trans women seem perfectly happy with their male bodies, do not want surgery and do not view it as a mental health issue.

I can't discuss it in public or on social media because I could lose my job due to not being "inclusive"

Wobbleslikeaweeble · 25/02/2018 19:08

I do with friend and fellow sports players. All are incredulous that TW are competing in female sports.

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SwearyG · 25/02/2018 19:07

I've just posted it and awaiting any backlash. That I'm scared to post it means it's even more important to say so. I even did it without my standard woolly "of course I respect transpeople and think they need their rights and dignity protected" because durr, of course I think that.

Hopefully we can peak trans some more people.

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Onlynever · 25/02/2018 19:04

I've spoken to the odd person. I've also written about it to a teenager club dd is in. And to MP and SMP (both ignored).

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 25/02/2018 18:56

I think your analogy is fantastic. And incontrovertible since it is your experience. And you'd have to be a massive shit to read that and think 'fucking TERF' I don't know if your friends are massive shits or not though...

And I think we should all be talking about it. I am trying to peak trans three people a week. I did two over the weekend

Xenophile · 25/02/2018 18:56

Yes, when in conversation with friends. I can't post stuff publicly, or I will never work again in my profession.

SisterNotCis · 25/02/2018 18:55

For work reasons I have just had quiet conversations with one or two friends. I follow some of the GC vocal feminists on Twitter in the hopes they know people are listening/interested.

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SwearyG · 25/02/2018 18:51

I'm an anorexic. I am "in recovery" whatever that means, but basically I am currently a healthy weight and managing to eat fairly sensibly. I have had anorexia since I was a teenager (now late 30s) and have always felt my body is wrong - too big, too small etc - I hate it. My treatment from all providers, both private and NHS, has been therapy and meal plans. Treatment to get me to accept my "wrong" body as it's not wrong because it's the only one I have. With the mind/body disconnect we treat the mind to accept the body. Losing weight didn't help the disconnect, gaining weight didn't help it, it's a mental issue.

People with gender dysphoria are told that their body can be surgically and hormonally altered to meet their version of the right body. This is akin, to me, to giving my anorexic self diet pills and liposuction. There is no "wrong body" there is only a disconnect with the mind/body. The answer to change the body is totally at odds with how we treat other dysphorias, and anorexia is the one most people know.

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SwearyG · 25/02/2018 18:45

I don't work so am safe from that kind of accusation or issue.

I just know it's such an emotive issue and I'm so passionate about how we have to stop this - having only really woken up to it a few months ago my mind is blown on how important it is and how we need the message to spread that the trans activism is really eroding women's rights. I worry that most people will scream transphobe and leave me friendless (though who needs friends like that).

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cheminotte · 25/02/2018 18:45

Interested to hear your anorexia analogy too.
I’ve had a whispered conversation with a friend who runs a women’s football team about trans women in sport and that’s about it.

Eolian · 25/02/2018 18:44

No, because I have never heard the subject mentioned by anybody in rl - only on MN!

chinnyrekkon · 25/02/2018 18:43

Can I hear the anorexia comparison? I've 'come out' but I do it on a one-to-one level, I'm far to chicken shit for a Facebook outing! Go you!

WiseOldHag · 25/02/2018 18:42

No - I have a professional role where I have to be above any sniff of an accusation of prejudice.

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