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This is what Helen from Mermaids writes about MN feminist posters

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/02/2018 12:05

"If you’re a Mum and on mn that often to have time to engage with ‘feminist’ forums, you’re more likely to be a ‘stay at home mum’. These are bored middle-class women putting their privileged Uni-educated thoughts to oppressing a small, vulnerable, oppressed sector of society"

Nice bit of sexism going on there

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 25/02/2018 23:16

I luffs Douglas.Grin

It was also cringingly overdramatic and self agrandising. 'We multitask like you breathe. I couldn't think as slow as you if I tried.' My spine is trying to crawl out of my body a bit...

Datun · 25/02/2018 23:14

BetsyM00

Seriously? Is that definite?

Mermaids don't mind that this person is acting like an unprofessional teenager?

Who is going out of their way to piss off 12 million women. With families.

Strewth. Who the bloody hell does their PR.

BetsyM00 · 25/02/2018 23:11

Datun Yes, Helen is Mermaid's Marketing Officer.

Somehow I don't think we are in the target group.

HairyBallTheorem · 25/02/2018 23:08

The core was a spectacularly bad movie. They could have come up with a more interesting number surely - I mean how about the classic one zero one zero one zero (sorry, couldn't resist, Douglas Adams nerd joke in binary...)

NotTerfNorCis · 25/02/2018 23:08

Yes have to admit when I first read it I found it very sinister. There has been some hacking, like the WPUK website being brought down.

Xenophile · 25/02/2018 23:06

NotTerf, oh, I don’t think they are either but it was clearly meant as a threat.

NotTerfNorCis · 25/02/2018 22:58

@Xenophile Pretty sure that individual, who's using their own name, is not actually planning to hack into people's computers and steal their financial info.

Elementtree · 25/02/2018 22:51

I've got one thing to say to them.. One Zero One Zero Zero. With that I could steal your money, your secrets, your sexual fantasies, your whole life. Any country, any place, any time I want. We multitask like you breathe. I couldn't think as slow as you if I tried.

If you are going to quote from disaster movies, I think you need something more credible than The Core. Grin Grin

Wait, wait, is that the sound of the Earth's core grinding to a halt leaving us vulnerable to the destabilising effect of solar radiation? Erm, no pet, that's the sound of bullshit.

Xenophile · 25/02/2018 22:29

Of course it was meant to be a threat ffs. The wide eyed ingenue posture doesn’t really work when the quote was also a threat in the film does it, try using the space between your ears to actually think once in a while. It’s good practice.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 25/02/2018 22:04

I didn't really get 'it's a quote not a threat either' surely if you quote a threat at someone you're threatening them? If we have an argument and I shout 'You can't HANDLE the truth' at you it means...er...you can't handle the truth? Right? Not some other random thought I haven't specified.

Very little on that thread makes sense. I'm still waiting for someone to explain why the Latin root of puerile is pertinent to me...

Own your fucking words people.

Datun · 25/02/2018 22:03

Does this Helen person officially represent Mermaids?

sanluca · 25/02/2018 21:58

Reading this thread and looking at the twitter thread, all I can say is that there are more people here laughing at the twitter thread than on twitter laughing at mumsnet..

Sahm no, mum yes, career yes (stem), gender critical oh yes! Idiots, all of them

Wanderingwomb · 25/02/2018 21:56

Tbh the threat confirms suspicions of a large amount of male privileged access to influence the various structures of power with their dogma. Its great as it helps expose just what a grass roots campaign this isn't.

holycheeseplant · 25/02/2018 21:47

@Mummyontherun86 to be fair, I think that's the stance of many posters here.

NotTerfNorCis · 25/02/2018 21:46

The quote was:

I've got one thing to say to them.. One Zero One Zero Zero. With that I could steal your money, your secrets, your sexual fantasies, your whole life. Any country, any place, any time I want. We multitask like you breathe. I couldn't think as slow as you if I tried.

That does come across as extremely threatening. But in this case I think it was a naive quote from an obscure disaster film, without the person realising quite how bad (and criminal) it sounded.

DarthArts · 25/02/2018 21:46

Hi Helen 👋

Keep up the good work. Your twitter feed is comedy gold!!!

Honestly your doing a great job helping other women peak trans with assertions such as puberty blockers not being dangerous and rapid onset gender dysphoria not existing.

Don't let small things like facts, science and research hold you back 😂

Baubletrouble43 · 25/02/2018 21:42

I'm not bored, uni educated or a stay-at-home mum. I mn in the evenings instead of reading books because I'm too thick, what with my lack of education

holycheeseplant · 25/02/2018 21:39

When I looked, that tweeter on about chips etc seems to promote women in stem. And has gone on about a TIM who created a chip in most phones.

All a bit side tracky to be honest, they're saying that "threat" is from a film - either way, it's a thinly veiled threat tbh. I'd never dream of quoting such a threat to someone; it simply doesn't occur to me personally. So I personally find it an intimidating tactic.

thebewilderness · 25/02/2018 21:37

And of course they don't realise we designed and built the chips that live inside their smartphone or tablet..
I suspect this veiled threat is in reference to the extraordinarily large number of AGPs who work in tech fields and for tech companies.

NotTerfNorCis · 25/02/2018 21:31

The 'first chips that live inside your smartphone tablet' wouldn't have been designed and built by one individual anyway. It would have been a team effort, based on the work of other teams. Yes, most of the people involved would have been men, that's how the tech industry is in the West. It sounds like one was a TIM. Still a man, though.

DullAndOld · 25/02/2018 21:22

Ada Lovelace...

ArcheryAnnie · 25/02/2018 21:19

And of course they don't realise we designed and built the chips that live inside their smartphone or tablet..

I wonder who the "we" is here? Does that TIM really think there's no women in STEM?

And who, pray, was the first computer programmer, hmmm? (Spoiler: not a male of any description.)

thebewilderness · 25/02/2018 21:16

Now that people are fact checking them we are beginning to see their flop sweat.
I expect it to get worse.

thebewilderness · 25/02/2018 21:11

I can't help but wonder how and with what the nodebate authoritarian transgender advocates are threatening MN.

DullAndOld · 25/02/2018 20:50

great post emyroo x