This is what Helen from Mermaids writes about MN feminist posters

Swatted Justine's nanny.

Ah Jeffrey yes, I remember. Swatted a Nanny and the DH of a Mumsnetter.

I do believe it was the SWAT team that first alerted me to mumsnet.

The old adage really is true, in this case. There's no such thing as bad publicity.

It just makes people wander over for a recce.

I love you all

They can try to shut down Mumsnet - many have tried and failed in the past.

Hey TRAs - we've had Matt from F4J setting fire to his underpants in M&S in protest, we've had hackers and SWATTING. We've had mass invasions, and DDOS attacks. We're still here, still talking.

I love you too APAB

It was a Mum from NCT that first started me down the non gender road (I had enjoyed boys toys myself as a child) she gave her son a doll to play with, initially there were raised eyebrows, eventually all the boys joined in. She wasn't university educated or middle-class, she was a former nanny. This was back in the day when Lego was red, blue, white and yellow.

Mogleflop

Lord. They think mumsnet has suddenly been overtaken by a load of random radfems?

MN has been hot on this issue for years!

And yes, I sincerely hope they do make a fuss to ASDA. Or any other advertisers.

I'd love to see those headlines. As soon as they give mumsnet the oxygen of publicity, more and more people arrive and see the arguments.

It would be a definite coup to get our quotes in print.

Plus people reading for themselves about parents promoting gender nonconformity. Worried about the sterilisation of children. Concerned that a sexual fetish is about to be legitimised, on the back of men with gender dysphoria.

Stats debunked, autogynephilia finally out in the open, terfisasur website presented to the entire country.

They really don't connect the dots.

The reason they don't come on here is because they have no sustainable argument. And we do. And yet, they want to push our profile as high as they can!

Bring it on.

They really, really are the supreme masters of the own goal.

I'm pretty sure you could get torn to shreds on AIBU by posting something like "I like sunsets".

MyUnicorn

But yeah, if they actually bothered to read MN instead of relying on sexist stereotypes (they really do like those don't they?) they'd see how it's nearly impossible to get a consensus on anything here - even the subjects you'd expect to be utterly uncontroversial. It's not a forum full of pushovers who are easily led.

What can I say to annoy?

Oh I know... people who won't let their sons play with dolls, are seriously sexist, stupid arseholes.

MyUnicorn

😂😂😂😂

I have been known to buy 2 chickens for Sunday dinner - I'm an abomination

Yeah I certainly don't think it's sweetness and light here.

But there are communities of like minded people. I assume if I went over to the Doghouse I'd find there are accepted ways of behaving. I think that's what they meant.

And I'm paraphrasing. It just struck me that they used one example - us.

MyUnicorn

Really not sure about the radicalisation power of MN... I am ashamed to admit I own 2 toilet brushes and can't make a chicken stretch further than 3 days, and I've been here for yonks.

RTB Didn't want your post to go uncommented

Gendered playing is such bollocks. I don't know many kids who are gendered in toys. What I have noticed is how hard it is for parents of boys who like playing with dolls and wearing sparkles. I saw a little boy at soft play about 10 years ago pushing a pram in a pink top and smiled at him, then his mum immediately started talking about how she had tried to discourage him but he wouldn't play with anything but girls toys. The mum was clearly concerned and the boy was lovely, it broke my heart. Why can't kids just be who they are? Why do we have to box everyone up? And FFS why does them not fitting the box mean surgery/medication is the answer??!@

Ha! I was going to do a Sainsbury shop tonight but I will do a massive Asda delivery instead.

Very happy to give Asda my white, middle class, uni-educated money.

A lot of Helen's anger is self-hatred, given that she herself is "cis", white, university educated and as middle class as could be, with a double-barrel maiden name (a distant cousin of posh boy Piers Morgan in fact), executive father, accountant ex-husband, and trying her hardest not to be a SAHM despite her marketing business not getting any clients except Mermaids. All of her rants about conservative christian zealots are about her family, the rest is pure self-loathing. I feel so sorry for that poor child

where like minded people meet to discuss things

Heh, I think they are wrong on that. Mumsnet members likeminded, on what. Its full of arguments and on most topics opinions are ridiculously polarized. I think the trans issue is probably around the most universal opinion on here thinking about it. Even the likes of breast V bottle brings out huge arguments with posters on each side of it. Where, trans threads these days consist of most people pretty much agreeing, with the odd 'you bunch of transphobes' then disappearing without arguing their actual POV, so clearly people who have no actual argument besides 'everyone should be nice'

I do it (along with boycotting a load of other corporations) for my own peace of mind not because I'm delusional enough to think I can "take down" a massive corp.

And this is usual, surely. Rather than trying to threaten various companies if they endorse something you do not like. Its a personal thing if you are boycotting. If enough people boycott then it may make a difference and get the company to reconsider their stance on whatever. But I really cannot see transactivists stirring enough people up to boycott ASDA because they advertise on mumsnet, where the posters shock horror promote watchful waiting in kids, rather than pumping them full of hormones and other dangerous treatments, and also believe in biology. Its nuts.

If it is true that 12 million people use mumsnet that means about 20% or one fifth the population of the UK. Odds are that nearly everyone in the UK knows more than one person who uses mumsnet.
I am not sure demonizing friends and family who use MN is the smartest strategy.

Like minded? I’ve seem some right Barnies on here!

I was listening to something random on R4 earlier. They were talking about virtual communities. The presenter said something like 'we're all familiar with forums, like Mumsnet, where like minded people meet to discuss things'.

We are fucking mighty. And I'm quite happy to START shopping at ASDA if they tell the TRAs to do one

So MN is a hotbed of radicalised TERFdom then - incredible!!

I need to make some badges for us all.

We dont have an Asda nearby.