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This is what Helen from Mermaids writes about MN feminist posters

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/02/2018 12:05

"If you’re a Mum and on mn that often to have time to engage with ‘feminist’ forums, you’re more likely to be a ‘stay at home mum’. These are bored middle-class women putting their privileged Uni-educated thoughts to oppressing a small, vulnerable, oppressed sector of society"

Nice bit of sexism going on there

twitter.com/mimmymum/status/967731110322036736

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Datun · 25/02/2018 13:57

The ones that work full time should surely be enjoying a bit of family time. I’d love to hear what their kids and husbands think (assuming men aren’t allowed in MumsNet)."

Good Lord. This is 2018, for heaven's sake.

These attitudes are so parochial.

What on earth happened to this generation?

I'm so glad I'm not growing up now, with all this blatant sexism and outdated ideas.

Frombothsidesnow · 25/02/2018 13:56

Disturbed by the stay at home father who thinks the only valid criticism of gender critical posters on MN is that they are 'mums'. The only criticism.

weekfour · 25/02/2018 13:55

Ah, so now even the bloody mermaids are attacking stay at home mums! Next time they’re looking for a group of women that experience prejudice, they can use SAHM’s as their example. I’m feeling pretty under attack!

neverfallingforitontwitter · 25/02/2018 13:54

Hello! Thanks to the steer from Helen, I've decided to join in on Mumsnet.

Looking forward to chatting with all you idle ' pearl clutchers' :)

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/02/2018 13:54

Helen is a woman. With a FtM child I think.

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MrsJoshDun · 25/02/2018 13:52

Funny isn’t it how Mermaids is all about the sexist stereotypes.

Not just on their twitter comments about Mumsnetters but also in their belief that if a boy likes pink and wants to play with dolls he must be a girl and should be pumped full of hormones.

AskBasil · 25/02/2018 13:51

What is their problem with women having degrees?
Is this another bizarre policy or just one of their spokespeople being sexist on Twitter?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 25/02/2018 13:51

That Helresa thinks he's so bright, but he seems to have forgotten that people can screenshot his tweets. He's made himself Suspect No. 1 if anything like that happens to someone he argues with. Maybe he should try to think a bit faster.

Terftastic · 25/02/2018 13:51

Hi Helen, thanks for publicising Mumsnet Smile

You can't block us here - so you may find a variety of views and discussions that are outside the realm of your Terf-Blocked Twitter bubble Wink

Yours sincerely,

A middle class, uni-educated, gender critical, SAHM who is never bored.

UpstartCrow · 25/02/2018 13:48

nauticant That undermines the 'paranoia' tweet in a pretty nasty way. Interesting username as well.

holycheeseplant · 25/02/2018 13:47

Its so mysoginistic and male. Ive never ever seen a woman post a threat like that.

We're all just basically taking the piss out of the stereotypes they've labelled us with.

They don't get the sexism thing, they think highlighting privilege through education isn't sexist. Kinda forgotten how many women in the past had to fight for equal education and how many girls today aren't able to access it, being female, including due to their active biology (periods.)

And as said upthread, it doesn't take a degree to see through lies and double think. My degree had no baring on my beliefs today. My experience working with young children did.

AskBasil · 25/02/2018 13:45

Well they're obviously watching this thread so:

If an adult has a penis he's a man

If a child has a penis he's a boy

Mammals cannot change sex.

Encouraging children to believe that they are born in the wrong body because they don't think, feel or behave like sexist stereotypes, is child abuse.

That should do for now.

smithsinarazz · 25/02/2018 13:45

Oh, by the way, Helen, I think my son might be left-handed. Should I :
a) tell him off for using his left hand (conversion therapy)
b) arrange for his right hand to be disabled, so that he's got a socially-acceptable excuse for using his right (reassignation therapy)
c) do nothing at all, because some people are left-handed?
Answers please..

FlaviaAlbia · 25/02/2018 13:44

Sigh. Was born, not were.

FlaviaAlbia · 25/02/2018 13:43

Yes OlennasWimple

What a complete tool. It reminds me a bit of that thread where a teenage boy came on and tried to explain the internet to us. It was beyond his tiny mind that some of the women here had been working in IT before he were born Grin

MaverickSnoopy · 25/02/2018 13:43

Wow. So we're being noticed then. We must be worrying them or they wouldn't talk about it.

hackmum · 25/02/2018 13:42

Mimmymum isn't the brightest lamp on the street, is she?

It's always depressing to see how quick many women are to put down other women by using stereotypes. Mothers are a particular focus for hate, particularly if they are middle-class, stay at home, or both. Obviously middle-aged women are "menopausal" (some kind of crime, apparently), white women are "privileged", and older women are just past it. It never seems to occur to these women that one day they will be middle-aged, or mothers, or middle-class, or old.

If you're man, being a father or middle-aged is fine, of course.

SimonBridges · 25/02/2018 13:42

"As parents, you’d think they’d have better things to do with their time. The ones that work full time should surely be enjoying a bit of family time. I have no family other than DH.
I’d love to hear what their kids and husbands think (assuming men aren’t allowed in MumsNet)."
Men are allowed thanks, although please define man.

I give not a shit what my husband thinks as I am a grown ass woman who is allowed my own opinion. What does your husband think.

OrderOnline · 25/02/2018 13:42

Just back from basting the potatoes and beef.

Instead of looking on here, I guess I should artfully enhance myself with chicken fillets and Blackcomb my hair?

DaisyDrip · 25/02/2018 13:39

Ah but nauticant you don't understand. TRA are allowed to make veiled threats as and when they choose, woman should just shut up. Terry Davis doesn't worry me one iota.

jedenfalls · 25/02/2018 13:33

Family time?!

Im hiding in my office with some uni work and a packet of hobnobs. DH is the master of family time. I might re emerge when he has cooked dinner. But not until.

I could identify as a man, but then id have to cook

nauticant · 25/02/2018 13:33

Here's a coded threat. Charming and sounding very much like a bloke:

twitter.com/helresa/status/967712702146732032

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 25/02/2018 13:33

Luner

There was lots of discussion here about the debate that Hands Across the Aisle facilitated when it was released last year. The tweeter is Kaelley Triller.
twitter.com/KaeleyT

Have a look at her pinned tweet, it's a fine read.

I wouldn't expect to agree with her on economics. Probably not abortion. But I agree with her on this.

If you think you can shame me into not allying with other women who have different political opinions on other issues, you are very much mistaken.

In fact, the level of full on partisan politics is half the reason we are in this mess.

Her tweets on this are great. And btw, the chap in the photo on her bio is Ryan Anderson, who just released 'When Harry Became Sally', which appears removing scales from eyes in the States. Out here next month.

www.amazon.co.uk/When-Harry-Became-Sally-Transgender/dp/1594039615/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=when+harry+became+sally&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1519565522&sr=8-1

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SimonBridges · 25/02/2018 13:32

Not a mum.
Work full time.
Have a degree.

How did you find this thread then, Helen if you are going to get pissy about other people reading stuff you post on Twitter? Equally public forums.
To think that MN is the home of ‘bored housewives’ is dreadful misogyny.

MrsJoshDun · 25/02/2018 13:32

How ironic that she’s stalking you on MN while talking about you stalking her on Twitter! Grin

Love the comment from Diane was it telling us women what we should be doing with ourselves at the weekend, “family time” aka, look after the man and the kids. And people wonder why I’m a feminist? Hope all these TIMs will be spending all their free time running around after the man in their life and any kids once they’ve transitioned. God forbid as a woman you should do anything else with your life.

I also appear to be blocked by her on twitter. Never heard of her before but I view the opinion of people from mermaids with the same amusement I view Flat Earthers’ opinions. So I’m not crying into my latte about being blocked.