This is what Helen from Mermaids writes about MN feminist posters

So SAHP don't have valid views
Degree educated women don't have valid views
Women who are on social media when they should be spending time with DC and husbands don't have valid views
Mermaids is creating an awfully small box of acceptable womenhood for their DC to live in. I spend most of my time telling both my dd and ds not to be limited by gender expectations and to make the most of their lives.
For me this means sometimes I work, sometimes I am a SAHP, sometimes I study and sometimes I do a mixture of all three. I also travel, volunteer and use social media sometimes.

I'm not university educated, SAHM or middle class.

The MN feminism boards are brilliant and I catch up with the discussion when I'm not in my minimum wage, full time job or being a taxi service to my teenage DD.

However, I'm on MN today because I'm confined to my house with the shits

And what HermoineWeasley said.

Why’s wrong with not working anway? Is there something wrong with staying at home to being up the kids? Or do you need to stay in isolation and read the daily mail of your do?

Still laughing that Helen thinks the predominant demographic on here is women that dont work. Clearly never cam across Xenia back in the day! Or the 1000s of lawyer threads, the women talking about their zero hour contract jobs and all the teachers/doctors/IT people etc etc

Call the police! Women are a diverse group of human individuals who have one thing in common: they are biologically adult human females.

I am menopausal and have no problem identifying as such because I'm WOMAN with WOmb and Vagina and Ovaries - and lots and lots of blood.

And I don't care about being old. As Granny Weather wax said - what doesn't grow old, doesn't change. And what doesn't change, is already dead.

My sister really wanted to be a dog when she was about 3. Or drove mum crazy. She’s not a dog now thank goodness.

Retired, happily married woman, not brainwashed or bored.
Middle class, well off because I worked bloody hard for it.
University educated? No and after over 30 years working in one I'm quite glad I'm not.
Also managed not to fuck up my three adult sons lives by cutting their bits off.
Think I'm the winner here Helen!

Now childish

She'd probably have me on childish

UpstartCrow

Haave I been brainwashed?
I suppose if one of you did accidentally on purpose brainwash me I wouldn't remember you doing it, would I.

I am - SAHM, uni educated, white, middle class (i've come down in the world ) never bored. Far too busy home educating my children - lots of biology & critical thinking
My youngest has declared themselves a big dog for the last three days... iwont be signing them up for drugs or surgery

Sahm - no, i work a whole 6 hours ...so boo yah sucks
Bored - only boring people get bored (channels mother)
Middle class - i dont know...probably. I dont know how to tell
University educated - no (does that make me not one of the elite, i dont think i want to be one of the elite ...people dont seem to like them much
Woman - Yep

Datun: Or shall we spot the flaw in that argument by realising the common denominator is the word mum.

This! And add to that the fact that giving birth to a child is one irreducibly female activity (regardless of how you then go on to raise that child, depending on your own personality and financial needs, whether by going out to work to add to the family's income or whether by staying at home with the child) - so of course a TRA would want to diminish that.

I'm a mum but I've not been brain washed by mumsnet!
My mind is perfectly filthy, if you must know.

Raves. Sigh, races ofc.

If I were them, I'd be scared of educated older people online too.

This is the crux of their attacks on MN. Nowhere else on the web is there such a gathering of intelligent, sensible women acrosd a broad range of classes, creeds and raves who engage in critical thought. It must be very threatening to them to come across cogent argument rather than just shouting people down.

I would like to think government hover on here too gauging the temperature.

Is the ‘we invented the microchip’ tweeter talking about Sophie Wilson, who as Roger Wilson helped develop the chip that was in the Acorn computer?
This went on to be the company ARM which builds the chips which are in every smartphone and tablet.

Sophie Wilson was just one person in that team, the rest of whom were men. I don’t think you can claim her to be the ‘inventor of the microchip’ alone. And just because one trans woman was part of that team it doesn’t mean that all trans women can claim it as their own.

(Interestingly if you watch the tv programme Micromen which is about the team who worked on that chip then she actually behind the bar in one scene)

Highly educated, working class, childless, unmarried woman here! I've been on MN since 2011 because it's full of interesting women from all walks of life talking about interesting things.

It makes me laugh how people think MN is made up solely of pearl-clutching, cardigan-wearing, middle-class, SAHM mums... and they're completely wrong .

Yes, because it takes 'privileged uni-educated thoughts' to understand basic biology Helen

I'd hazard a guess that many of us are university educated but that's not a bad thing. It means that we are better placed to see through the bullshit.

Wow, Helen is a special kind of moron isn't she

And apart from anything else, aren't middle-class stay at home mothers afforded the same rights as all woman?

Only if they have a penis apparently

Ahhh... threats, insults and ad hominem attacks. The last resort of those with no actual argument.

The MN feminist boards are wonderful. So says this non bored, full time working, WC holder of four degrees (in STEM.)

You may wish to have a think about why you hate women so much, sweetie.

Not only am I not a SAHM, I don't even have kids. I'm an engineer and in a STEM career. Hence my need for chip-designing TIMs is strictly limited. I manage a whole bunch of the best techies in the field.

Funny, though, that this Helen person seems so clued in on what's going on here if only over-privileged SAHMs have time for this kind of thing.

”and of course they don’t realise that we designed and built the chip that lives inside their phones and tablets”

And of course you don’t realise that every single human on this planet was created by a woman using her reproductive organs. You were all grown inside these mothers that you seem to hate so much. Your own mother wiped your arse and grew you in her womb. You are the product of a mother.

And anyway who is the ‘we’
We = trans?
We = women?
It can’t be we = men because you have a female name and present as a women, so you can’t be a man, surely.

It’s completely obvious that women, and mothers in particular have never achieved anything * and their views can safely be disregarded.

• apart from the continuation of the entire human race for all of human history.