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ITV 8pm Tonight programme on the trans debate

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ijustwannadance · 22/02/2018 19:59

Be interesting if it actually gets debated.

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CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 22/02/2018 20:36

I can't watch. It won't do my blood pressure any favours and there are kids in the house.

How are we doing?

Terftastic · 22/02/2018 20:34

I had no concept of this stuff at 7. But I was raised in the 70's - and there was no 'boys' and 'girls' Lego then...

Fuck. I'm pretty sure I didn't 'want' to be a girl or a boy at 7, I wanted to be rolling around in the dirt as much as the next boy - or girl - or watching Tiswas. There really weren't many rigid gender stereotypes in the 70's - kids were just kids as I remember. I spent half of my childhood in stretchy navy nylon trouser things. And an orange and brown polar neck jumper. I'm in no doubt at all I am a woman. Because biology.

What are we doing to our children?

LaContessaDiPlump · 22/02/2018 20:34

That FB page will be jumping, hopefully....

Flimp · 22/02/2018 20:32

Sorry, not read the thread, but I just caught the last 10 minutes of this and I'm fucking RAGING 😤

A 7 yr old trans boy?! FUCK YOU! That is NOT OK. How fucking DARE they put that on her.

OhFucko · 22/02/2018 20:31

I still think the whole thing is going to implode on itself spectacularly.

rowdywoman1 · 22/02/2018 20:31

The false suicide statistics - maybe a complain needed about them breaching the Samaritan's guidelines. Or a question on the facebook page about it?

ChattyLion · 22/02/2018 20:30

Think it will be posted here to watch again at some point www.itv.com/hub/tonight/1a2803

terfsRus · 22/02/2018 20:29

This programme is like an extended brochure for transitioning.

OhFucko · 22/02/2018 20:29

I've seen that awful woman on something before, with that poor child. It comes across as being all her. She should be prosecuted.

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ijustwannadance · 22/02/2018 20:29

Exactly, it's just bloody personality. There is no gender spectrum.

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Doobigetta · 22/02/2018 20:28

I have a serious issue with a transwoman presenting themselves as a lesbian female ex-commando to schoolchildren without clarifying properly. It's just untruthful.

Bitchywaitress · 22/02/2018 20:26

Just saw the bit about the 7 year old that has been living as a boy for a year, and I'm almost crying.

JustHooking · 22/02/2018 20:26

70 genders yet still only 2 sexes
What is gender if not personality, likes and dislikes
I hate that they frame it that the mothers are behind the times
They haven't mentioned sexless, sterile children

NotTerfNorCis · 22/02/2018 20:26

Living as a boy since 4 years old! How does a child that age 'know'?

Terftastic · 22/02/2018 20:25

7 yrs old. Seven.

GlitterGlue · 22/02/2018 20:25

Are there any 15 year olds who aren't INTENSE? Isn't that the whole point of being 15?

Indeed. But as an adult you just DONT UNDERSTAND.

God, I bet teachers think wistfully of the days when rebellion was wearing black lipstick.

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ijustwannadance · 22/02/2018 20:22

Why is it aleady being taught in schools anyway?

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OhFucko · 22/02/2018 20:22

That dad is just sooooo right on.

That's what it's all about really, isn't it?

Iworrytoomuchh · 22/02/2018 20:21

Think it’s been quite balanced so far, not pushing either side just opinions and experiences.

Bloody hell though, did they say 75 genders? That’s utterly ridiculous. I understand Transwoman, woman, trans man, man.. but the rest is just undeniable bollocks IMO.

Lefthanddown · 22/02/2018 20:20

15 mins in and I can't believe the bias. Glossed over sex of a person and straight into multi genders

thenightsky · 22/02/2018 20:19

And now we get dad telling us that the puberty blockers and totally reversible.

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ijustwannadance · 22/02/2018 20:19

There will be no mention of autistic or vulnerable children.

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Yambabe · 22/02/2018 20:19

I'm actually impressed that it's been reasonably well balanced so far.... giving both sides and fairly dispassionately.

Doobigetta · 22/02/2018 20:18

Are there any 15 year olds who aren't INTENSE? Isn't that the whole point of being 15?

soundsystem · 22/02/2018 20:18

@Doobiegetta, was going to say the same thing!

I'm quite happy for people to identify as two-spirit or whatever they like, but did I hear right that those 71 genders cover 1% of people? So presumably a lot of other people identify as a "woman" or a "man"?