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How have things improved in the past 20 years?

35 replies

LeslieKnopefan · 22/02/2018 00:57

What changes do you see in the last 20 years?

For me the biggest positive is in football. 22 years ago aged 14 I played for an under 16 girls team. Whatever your age from 9 to 16 there was only an under 16 league locally and there was 6 teams in it. I had to travel 10 miles to my nearest team.

In my year at school there was may be 3 girls who liked football (for more than Ryan Giggs!) and even at games there weren’t that many women.

I see so many opportunities in football for girls and women now and of course more can always be done but playing or choosing to watch football is now seen as a normal activity for girls and women.

What else is better?

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TemporarySign · 22/02/2018 10:50

Don't let the current pushback and poor economic conditions mislead you. There have been lots of improvements to the official culture. The daily grind may have not changed or even worsened.

For instance there is now a police force in England - Nottingham - that has recently declared it will treat sexual harassment as hate crimes. Manchester police force recognised and published the fact that less than 3% of rape claims are lies, and vowed to treat complaints better in future. Speaking as someone who did not dream of reporting assaults for years, and when they did got bad treatment from the police, that is a significant breakthrough. We currently have the #MeToo campaign which is raising awareness of sexual harassment.

Unfortunately online porn is undoing much of that good work.

worita · 22/02/2018 10:42

I think for many steps forward, there's been a tenuous hidden step back.

superhamster · 22/02/2018 10:40

more countries are making prostitution (paid rape) illegal. look at sweden, iceland, norway and N ireland

redshoeblueshoe · 22/02/2018 09:25

Sport is the one area that is worse. How would you feel if a mans team turned up to play against your team ? Or a man said he wanted to join your team ?
20 years ago that wasn't an issue - it is today.
Employment - my maternity leave 30 years ago was a better deal than some women are getting today. I was able to choose to go back part time or full time. I know some women now who are lucky if they keep the same job.

BigEthel · 22/02/2018 09:14

Nothing. We've gone backwards where women are being denied the very thing that makes them women now.

When do you see women's football on MOTD?

OvaHere · 22/02/2018 09:09

Overall in terms of legal progressions and shift in attitudes I think we are at a better point today than 20 years ago but it also feels like we are at a tipping point where things are in danger of sliding back.

On a purely personal level things 'felt' better to me in the 90s but this is probably because I was very young and hopeful (as opposed to a bit weary and jaded). I don't think my personal feelings are likely to be a wholly accurate barometer though.

UpABitLate · 22/02/2018 08:58

The behaviour of men at work is miles better IMO and in my industry - they don't do all the bantery stuff in front of women any more.

Sadly the feelings are still there underneath so while the surface is more comfortable the old attitudes remain but are hidden + there is additional resentment from men who feel oppressed, stifled, by having to "think about" what they say at work (because obviously it comes naturally to them to make sexist commemts etc).

From another thread - builders are much less intrusive now.

The internet has meant that women can share their stories and experiences now, removing the idea that all sorts of stuff is rare or a 1-off.

TerfyMcTerface · 22/02/2018 07:22

I actually think the 1990s was a much better time for women and for feminism than today.

Kingsclerelass · 22/02/2018 01:22

20 years ago, 1998? Fewer people making sniffy assumptions about being a single mum.

Yes this is my house, yes I live here with my son, no someone didn't buy it for me.....

Definitely better. Smile

HolgerDanske · 22/02/2018 01:02

Nothing. In my opinion everything has got a whole lot worse.