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Sisters Uncut

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OrderOnline · 18/02/2018 22:06

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5406353/Protesters-wearing-Times-T-shirts-BAFTA-red-carpet.html

What do we know about them?

Are they anything to do with the protesting last week in London and Edinburgh?

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AdultHumanFemale · 19/02/2018 00:17

They are circulating on social media a photo of the meeting room of the WPUK GRA meeting in my city the other week, showing the panel seated at a table, creepily asking people to come forward if they have any information as to where the room in the photograph is, so they can hold the venue managers to account. Totally outrageous.

MyLovelyHorseAndNewNameNow · 19/02/2018 00:13

I think they have an umbilical attachment to sections of Class War and the anarchist scatterings around London. And I say that as a lefty.

I don't personally think they are feminist women, or 'sisters' to me as a woman, or anything that's helpful to me as a woman, tbh.

Everyonematters · 19/02/2018 00:05

I think in the current political climate if you cover yourself in a cloak of genuine social justice actions and hypnotise the crowds with the 'trans women are women' mantra you can, as a man, walk into pretty much any previously barricaded safe space for women just by claiming you are one. No one wants to be transphobic so no one dares ask, or question the narrative that all trans people are vulnerable to violence.

I am sure many trans people are - and should be supported. But that doesn't make a man who has abused women and decides to say he's trans to gain sympathy, access, power or whatever suddenly vulnerable to abuse himself. Except in the trans narrative that's what he becomes.

It is obvious to anyone with half a brain and morals that it is not transphobic to ask the intentions of an intact male wanting to enter vulnerable women's private spaces. But that is what the TERF culture has turned it into.

Maria Miller's committee's self-id proposals, and Corbyn's current party policy aren't progress - they are a pattern for Jimmy Saville's magic dress. Everyone I have spoken to so far can see that immediately. Why can't they?

Because they and their parties had better have some good answers, because people are starting to realise.

Everyonematters · 18/02/2018 23:49

There is something very off about them IMO. There is lots of positive virtue signalling on the outside and they say some inarguably positive things. I expect there are some genuine campaigners for vulnerable women and trans sufferers of abuse who get involved - like Wisterical for eg.

But if you look a bit closer there is a serious trans agenda. So if you look at what they've done (eg scroll through twitter/Facebook) it doesn't really make sense for an organisation that is supposed to exist to protect vulnerable women.

For a day to mark violence against women they protested at Holloway prison - the Facebook group mentions one woman and three transwomen, but nothing about why these transwomen were in prison or how it links to domestic violence and abuse. If they had written it as 'a woman and three men incarcerated for...' they would never have got away with doing it or posting it.

There are MRA 'what about the menz' Comments scattered on their page, going on about how domestic abuse and violence affects men just the same as women. They all get told to F off in no uncertain terms. Yet I
would bet money if they said the exact same thing about a man who put on a dress or just changed their name to a female one and said he was now female, they could make the exact same type of argument and be cheered on.

Just doesn't feel right - this is not an org that seems driven to help vulnerable women feel safe. Which should surely be a defining feature of an org founded to support women's refuges.

Amortentia · 18/02/2018 23:47

How can they say they campaign on behalf of women who have suffered domestic violence but support a man attacking a women in public, on camera?? Or, oppose women who wish to meet up to discuss something that will directly impact on women. What kind of irrational thinking does it take to square this in their head?

cista · 18/02/2018 23:34

I can't support them if they're self-identifying Sad

LangCleg · 18/02/2018 23:23

Sisters Uncut were formed a while back as an offshoot of UK Uncut - both there to protest austerity but Sisters Uncut focused on cuts to women's services. They have always been a self-ID group as far as I know. But I think being quite so rabid about it is a relatively new thing.

They have done good anti-austerity work - on cuts to DV services and in alliance with housing groups such as Focus E15.

Wisterical · 18/02/2018 23:22

I went to a couple of sisters uncut meetings last year in my nearest city as council were closing refuge and I though women only campaign group a great idea. I stopped going as there was a man who said he was a woman in the meetings.

NickMyLipple · 18/02/2018 23:20

I've got a friend who is heavily involved and I don't really understand their agenda - it is totally two sided!

What I will say is that they are all very young, and completely revel in big publicity stunts.

Geronimoleapinglizards · 18/02/2018 23:17

They are supposed to be a feminist campaigning group but sadly have drunk the kool aid en masse.

They're utter traitors

CircleofWillis · 18/02/2018 23:07

I’m so confused!!!

MarSeeAh · 18/02/2018 22:55

They were in Edinburgh last week banging pots and pans together and shouting, "you can stick your gender binary up your arse!".

I believe that the men who assaulted Maria at Speakers Corner last year were also part of, or associated with Sisters Uncut.

niceandtoasty · 18/02/2018 22:53

And they are continuing to support and try to raise money for an organisation which advocates violence against women:

www.facebook.com/sistersuncut/

wantaticket · 18/02/2018 22:52

They were indeed protesting at the recent Edinburgh event. Know almost nothing else about them though.

niceandtoasty · 18/02/2018 22:26

Very surprised to hear they are against "gender-based violence" when they team up with Action for Trans Health which supports beating up women who disagree with them:

www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2017/09/trans-rights-terfs-and-bruised-60-year-old-what-happened-speakers-corner

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4914582/Radical-transgender-group-says-FINE-punch-women.html

Everyonematters · 18/02/2018 22:16

Why do you ask?

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