Gender detected at 5 but not

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Whinberry · 18/02/2018 08:04

Both the Guardian and Telegraph yesterday ran an article about how gender is detected in the voice of 5 year old. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/16/child-gender-speech-age-five-research-university-minnesota.

It seems to me it emphatically does not support this conclusion. 28 boys between 5 and 13 boys selected by their parents for playing with girls and girls toys (and 'diagnosed' as gender dysphoria) were found to have speech patterns of the children they most commonly associated with (girls). It is suggested that this indicates both homosexuality and gender dysphoria us detectable from 5. No long term follow up. My dd had an Australian friend at 5 and picked up her accent to the point that everyone commented...

Why is journalism so poor?

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Ekphrasis · 18/02/2018 08:15

I posted a post about this yesterday.

To be honest the 'research' shows nothing but adult homophobic stereotyping towards children and L&B.

The sample was only from parents who took their children to the clinic panicking about 'gender.'

I think the guardian have twisted it considerably.

NannyOggsKnickers · 18/02/2018 08:13

The thing about this is that those gendered speech patterns are socially conditioned. Early research into gender talk has been widely debunked. Most modern linguists look beyond binary gender when explaining differences in language.

Look at the research of Deborah Cameron vs the older research from the 70s of linguistics like Robin Lakoff.

I can’t actually believe any linguist worth their salt would still be researching in such a narrow out dated way.

boatyardblues · 18/02/2018 08:10

WTF?

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