Why do transpeople not campaign for unisex facilities?

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Disabled people need to pass in a safe place too, how the Fuck is a TIM less able to protect themselves less than someone in a wheelchair, do one TRA hairy hander!

I think a lot of people are in favour of unisex. Problem is that there aren’t very many at the moment and trans people still need to piss. Ideally without being beaten up by men, who tbh seem to be the main issue here.

I won't derail further, the point needs making as it's disabled women, men and children, as well as women and children being shoved under and off the bus by trans identified MRAs.

TRAs are prams on the bus, to women and disabled people(UN report on disability in UK). Get the sympathy off TIM's.

Use the colonisation of prams on the disabled space on the bus and UN condemnation of the way disabled people are treated in the UK against TRAs. Are they Fuck the most oppressed!

"If we go unisex then it should save money and everyone will benefit."

True, if by 'everyone' you mean abusive men.

Labour and public organisations don't find disability exciting like trans, so mistreat us yet, further.

It shouldn't mean taking disabled toilets. I don't think this is down to transwomen, it is women objecting to transwomen and unisex toilets.

I do know the pressures on disabled toilets as I am my husband's carer and it is annoying when people have the attitude that people should use the disabled toilets.

Order online
I agree, your space is not endlessly multipurpose. You are being heard. Not much else I can say

That's what organisations are doing, taking away facilities from disabled people.

You know the actual oppressed people, the UN put the UK on notice for mistreatment!

The UN didn't put fucking TIM's on the condemnation, it's disabled people and our space was taken from plus to be the unisex TIM place. Yet we sit in our wheelchairs wet, in pain, in excrement waiting for breastfeeding baby changers, chances and TIM's in OUR space! No fucked cares about us in Diversity, it's all about the TIMs!

I'm guessing that back before the present bollocks of shitting on females, dressed up as trans rights, it wasn't really an issue, and the majority of trans women probably wanted to fly under the radar.

Now I imagine some won't for the same reason, not to mention the backlash from the trans activists at the idea they aren't biological women.

Even those that do probably don't get noticed over the loud voices of the trans activists. Who of course don't want them for all the reasons mentioned already.

Cerealcomplainer I think you might see the issue now, the problem seems to be that the women who object to transwomen using a women's toilet object to unisex toilets unless you have women's toilets and unisex toilets which feels a bit like having women's toilets and men's toilets.

Why make the men's unisex? There are transwomen and transmen, it isn't just an issue for transwomen.

OrderOnline I didn't realise having a unisex facility meant taking disabled toilets, I know they are unisex (and that doesn't seem to be a problem for disabled women or men) but they are for a specific group of people and should be separate from this.

No, everyone won't benefit from unisex toilets. Where there can only be 2 options make the mens unisex.

Its bad enough having a miscarriage in a shopping centre toilet without being gawped at by a load of men while it happens to you.

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Let the disabled people sit outside in excrement, waiting for the TIM and breastfeeder colonizing their hard fought for right to the toilet.

Third space that was fought for by disabled people climbing out of wheelchairs and crawling on the ground is already taken up by disabled people who already share with, pram owners, breastfeeders, baby changers and now you want to shove the camera coathooks, wankers into toilet roll in our space because like the men you don't want them, I think not, they fight for their own space.

*men not amen obviously

I think that, for the most vocal and dominant transactivists, the toilets issue for example, seems to not really be about avoiding burst bladders or male violence, it's about validation of womanhood.

Their circular argument is :
Transwomen are women -> Women use women's facilities -> Transwomen use women's facilities ---> Transwomen are women.

Speaking to a Male friend today and he said “amen who now identity as women seem to think they are entitled to, and have more rights than women who are women”
That’s pretty much spot on i think

Local authorities are closing down toilet facilities in many areas due to expense. Is it likely they can suddenly find the money to have male female and unisex? If we go unisex then it should save money and everyone will benefit.

I'm in favour of 3 spaces, male, female and all inclusive. then people can choose which space suits them.

Trans activists don't support that, they want to remove the right to consent from women.
I haven't heard a single trans rights activist that doesn't turn out to be a male rights activist. Its irrelevant if they claim to be left wing, right or centre. They all use the same thin arguments.
They always out themselves eventually by claiming that treating everyone as though they are identical = equality.

They colonize woman and disabled spaces, much easier than fight for your own. Much like pram owners colonised disabled spaces on the bus, rather that fight for their own space. It's what stronger people do to the weaker.