Why do transpeople not campaign for unisex facilities?

The poster has prob had wait outside a Disabled loo that doubles as baby change and breast feeding space. I know I have. Not a problem it itself but waiting 20-30min to use loo having no idea how long someone is going to be is nightmare. So if you are adding yet more people into the queue for Disabled loo, it’s not going help.

Why do women have to tolerate and chance male violence, yet TIMs don't!

CougheeBean wrote - "trans people still need to piss. Ideally without being beaten up by men, who tbh seem to be the main issue here."

Reports of transgender people being beaten up by men in men's toilets appear in newspapers and other news media only very rarely. Does this indicate:
(a) such violence is so frequent that news outlets regard it as "old news" not worthy of comment because it has been witnessed regularly by most consumers of news?
or
(b) it is very rare?
or
(c) some other reason?

(My question is prompted by some things I've learned about the biases involved in reporting of violent crime. For example, the tendency for rates of reporting rape to police to be treated as an indication of the actual rape rate. In 2010, the reported-to-police rape rate per 100,000 of population in Sweden was (allegedly) the highest in Europe, 91 times higher than in Albania. It's a bias caused by high levels of reporting in Sweden and low levels of reporting in Albania, and it doesn't show that rape is very rare in Albania.)

Is there any evidence that this actually happens?

May be worth checking Miranda Yardley's site regarding it? I know Miranda periodically posts about being a TIM who just used a male bathroom and was astonished to yet again experience a complete lack of violence and harassment.

Equally if it's ok for TIMs to come into women's bathrooms via self ID (which lets in any sex offender too) to get away from the male violence, don't we sort of have an immediate obvious issue that the male violence came with them so they're no safer?

And why would it be ok for TIMs to have to use women's facilities against women's protests because of needing a safe refuge to pee away from men - and yet when women try saying the exact same thing they're being 'hysterical' and 'it never happens' and 'you can call the police if anyone's inappropriate or violent' and 'well violent men are going to do it anyway, so which bathroom you're in won't stop them' ?

Problem is that there aren’t very many at the moment and trans people still need to piss. Ideally without being beaten up by men, who tbh seem to be the main issue here.
Is there any evidence that this actually happens?
I have seen dozens of trans identified males selfies in the men's restrooms asking if this looks right but never a report of an assault on one of them.
Because men recognize men and do not seem to have a problem sharing to loo with trans identified males.

Some transgender advocates say they need the affirmation of being treated as the opposite sex to maintain their mental health.
Some transgender advocates say their goal is to displace women entirely.
Some men are using transgender rights to get rid of all sex based protections in law.
Some transgender advocates are in favor of unisex facilities.
Transgender advocates are not the Borg any more than Feminists are. Turns out quite a few of them are Russian bots.

Becuase those that are shouting the loudest want to be accepted as women no questions asked

Apparently if the person next to me in a changing room looks like a man in a dress takes off their clothes and has a penis I’m not to ask questions as they have decided that are a women just like myself

Only way forward is male, female and unisex spaces. Certain Support groups to be kept to male, female and transwomen/transmen spaces

More Unisex facilities would also be good for parents caring for children of the opposite sex or anyone who doesn’t care and doesn’t want to queue. Problem is they need to be in addition - existing single sex facilities usually designed on assumption that less privacy is needed - can’t just change door sign.

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Order I presume the reason most disabled toilets are unisex is to allow carers of the opposite sex in as well?

At my work we have men’s, women’s, and unisex disabled on every floor, but two of the women’s cubicles have adaptations to make them suitable for some disabilities as well. Then on some but not all floors we have unisex, which is complete self enclosed cubicles but they are able-bodied unisex, and in the same place there is a unisex disabled as well. So hopefully everything catered for.

Rufus totally agree. Floor-to-ceiling, self-contained, securely lockable cubicles with sink, hand-drier, sanitary bin, condom / tampon machine opening onto a corridor - absolutely.

If they just relabel existing loos unisex it will not work, women cannot use urinals, effectively it'll be unisex and men's, and I do not wish to rinse my mooncup out in from of (well, anyone ideally) men.

"All the trans people I know are doing so. It’s only the tiny percentage of “TRA” types who demand access to female facilities. But TRA gets all the attention due to being so loud and demanding, and the 99% of trans people who are not TRA get ignored."

Interesting. The problem is, there's far more TRAs than actual trans.

separate cubicles off a corridor? No problem and if some of the grotty old loos are replaced with modern facilities and cleaning was done regularly it would be great. If going unisex frees up enough money to make it happen then I think it would be great and no more agonising about if your opposite sex child is old enough to go off to loo alone. Instead of which facilities are closing and standards are falling.

Disabled women and children should never have been shoved to the side, we deserve to be included within society. Not the afterthought where you shove all and sundry whilst the disabled wait in discomfort, for the privileged to finish using our hard fought for space.

I would like a disabled toilet within the women's toilet block and TIMs kept out!

I dont have a problem with unisex loos

I have a problem with the ladies being changed to unisex

Unisex loos ...separate cubicles off a corridor? No problem

Of course they should use the disabled toilet in addition to the women's order. Both groups should make way for the menz.

Besides, they might now identify as disabled too so the cis disabled need to check their privilege.

I’m disabled i have a problem with unisex disabled toilets in that the seat is usual covered in pee. Or the seat is up! I appreciate additional needs may cause this but still it really is a down side of Disabled toilets. But still with men using more ladies you all can have this pleasure soon

Trans rights usurp women and disabled rights, because men are the most oppressed according to TRAs, public services and politicians. No wonder the UN condemned the UK!

And according to the Scots TRA guidance to schools, re name the disabled toilets where they are also the designated unisex toilet so the stigma of the word 'disabled' doesn't rub off on the trans kids.

Where do you even start on all the things wrong with that?

When you look at the speed of what the TRA movement has achieved in a very short timespan, you see what happens (and who has the power and gets listened to) when an 'equality' movement is led by straight, white, able bodied men.