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Valentine's Day is simply a commercial celebration of heteropatriarchy

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crunchymint · 14/02/2018 19:16

Heteropatriarchy means everything that promotes the idea that we should be in monogamous opposite sex relationships. So our culture that promotes this as the ideal way to live, and practical issues such as available housing and legal protection in the form of marriage, that make this the easiest choice.
Valentine's Day celebrates this through commercialisation that urges you to spend lots of money, to show that you really do love that person of the opposite sex you are in a monogamous relationship with.

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DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 15/02/2018 07:50

You could make the argument that holidays (package type deals) are heteronormative - all the adverts for them feature heterosexual couples and often children...

As another poster says whilst it's nice to acknowledge same sex couples if the vast majority of the market are hetero then I can see why most of the marketing reflects that.

Having said that I am in a hetero relationship and so perhaps I am blind to it.

hipsterfun · 14/02/2018 21:51

Still hoping some chocolates might appear before the day is out Hmm

Nice cards from the DC, though.

joystir59 · 14/02/2018 21:49

We are a lesbian couple who never celebrate Valentine's day. But my DW's birthday is the day before so that has a lot to do with it.

RebelRogue · 14/02/2018 21:35

The embodiment of heteropAtriarchy .
GrinGrin

Valentine's Day is simply a commercial celebration of heteropatriarchy
Definitelyrandom · 14/02/2018 21:34

DH and I have always considered it to be commercially driven bobbins and have been a bit bemused at people who buy cards and go out for meals at twice the usual price. Slightly amused by DS2’s feeling of obligation re his girlfriend but since it’s Ash Wednesday I think she rightly took the view he wouldn’t be up for a big night out.....

crunchymint · 14/02/2018 20:37

Odinia What about lesbian couples who have children?

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StealthPolarBear · 14/02/2018 20:07

You mean you don't celebrate corporate love day?
I bought dh an ironing board. I was hoping for a new kitchen bin but he let me down :(

LassWiADelicateAir · 14/02/2018 20:02

None of the "cumpulsory" you must care and show devotion days are compulsory. There are plenty of reasons to ignore them but I don't think yours is a particularly strong one.

I don't bother with any of Valentine's, Mother's or Father's day. A random "saw this and thought you'd like it" given on any random day means more (well to me anyway)

Odinia · 14/02/2018 19:58

Children thrive and are at their very best when Mum and Dad love each other and share the tasks of family life. No need to consider too many long Latyn phrases really, happy V Day! X

Writersblock2 · 14/02/2018 19:50

I saw Saint Valentine’s skull in Rome recently (many places report they have it but apparently this is the most likely). I can say it didn’t make me feel particularly romantic.

austenozzy · 14/02/2018 19:50

When ~95% of the population is hetero, it’s hardly surprising. As others have said, I’ve seen stuff from gay friends on FB etc and there’s nothing explicitly excluding them.

Elendon · 14/02/2018 19:50

I agree crunchymint and EastEnders last night was just disgusting - I don't follow ee honest guv Smile I just put the tv on because I didn't want to miss Shetland.

Anyway, love and peace to all, and hopefully a warmer spring for all of us.

ScreamingValenta · 14/02/2018 19:46

Most cards that are printed as 'to' someone just say wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend/fiance/fiancee so there's nothing whatsoever to stop them being bought by same-sex couples for each other.

Yes, of course it's a commercial racket but a well-chosen card cheers up a dark February morning when spring still seems a long way off. You would find it hard to name a type of celebration which hasn't been commercially exploited - it's for the individual to draw the line between those they find pleasurable and those that are a waste of money.

Trailedanderror · 14/02/2018 19:46

We are reappropriating it from the heteronormative patriachy Grin
I had 3 Facebook posts about it on my timeline- one from some gay friends, one from a female celebrating Galentines, she posted 8 friends' selfies and one bible verse about agape rather than romantic love.
DH sent DS out for flowers for me, because he's away, we don't normally celebrate. FlowersGrin

crunchymint · 14/02/2018 19:45

Valentine's Day promotes opposite sex couples. Look at the cards, adverts, traditions - the man buys roses and chocolates.

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RebelRogue · 14/02/2018 19:39

Got DP a card about how bad his farts stink and a wallet tool thingy. Total spend 5£.

DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 14/02/2018 19:38

OP it absolutely is a commercialised nonsense day (for the vast majority) but can you give us some more reasoning for why you believe it promotes heteropatriarchy? As per pp I know many same sex couples who will 'celebrate' it.

I suppose if you mean the usual cards displayed on stands are for 'his and hers' type gift things then I would understand a little, but I'm not sure....

Eolian · 14/02/2018 19:38

Same sex couples are free to embrace Valentine's Day, just as heterosexual couples are free to reject it. I bought dh a card but never in my 46 years have I spent lots of money on Valentine's Day stuff.

stoneagefertilitydoll · 14/02/2018 19:36

I don't do velentines because I'm a massive tightwad

This is it. We have shared finances. Why on earth would I want to waste money on the most expensive night of the year, when we can go out any other time, or buy myself some chocs when I do the shopping... We both probably lack the romance gene.

lettuceWrap · 14/02/2018 19:36

*OTT!

QueenLaBeefah · 14/02/2018 19:34

I don't do velentines because I'm a massive tightwad.

lettuceWrap · 14/02/2018 19:34

Amongst our friends, it’s the gay married couple who’ve gone completely OOT with the valentines celebrations (as they do each year). We do flowers, alcohol, a nice dinner out - of our friend group (age 40/50) married heterosexual couples hardly bother at all.

stoneagefertilitydoll · 14/02/2018 19:31

DP and I don't go in for it, I do find the way my sons bring stuff home they've made for me for valentines a bit weird though if I actually think about it....

it's just for me, they don't make stuff for DP..

fishdogpancakes · 14/02/2018 19:28

It's originally a Pagan festival which like so many others was usurped by a Pope in order to crush the non Christians.
Pagans believe in the Goddess as equal to the God so you can see why they needed expulsion.
The festival was Lupercalia, a celebration of fertility. The Pope was Gelasius in 496 who made it a St day. St Valentine.

No I didn't get a card either!

Elendon · 14/02/2018 19:28

I read that Valentine rescued young women who were imprisoned in their house because they were not deemed marriageable and gave them a refuge with nuns - nuns then were a sisterhood and had homes to accommodate women who suffered abuse in their family households.

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