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Utah school bans students from saying “no” when asked to dance [Edited by MNHQ]

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UpstartCrow · 14/02/2018 16:13

This is being shared on Twitter.

www.msn.com/en-gb/lifestyle/family-relationships/schools-decision-to-refuse-girls-right-to-say-no-if-boys-ask-them-to-dance-challenged-by-pupils-parent/ar-BBIZdka?ocid=st

''teachers had told the students, aged between 11 and 12, that they had to say “yes” when someone asked them dance.

Shocked by the policy, the mother took her concerns to the school principal but was simply told that that’s just how they organise their dances.

Lane Findlay with the Weber School District confirmed that it is in fact a rule, but added that it’s meant to teach students how to be inclusive.''

This isn't how you teach kids to be inclusive.

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Melamin · 14/02/2018 16:50

It was turn about boys asking and girls asking. All it meant was that you did not have the humiliation of asking someone to dance and them
Laughing in your face and saying no.

It was boys ask, girls accept, for us. No turnaround. (Not Scotland either).

TerfsForWomen · 14/02/2018 16:49

My children would not be attending, frankly.

CallYourDadYoureInACult · 14/02/2018 16:47

Sorry - meant to say - I did not have a problem with it back then. Obviously this context is different.

powershowerforanhour · 14/02/2018 16:47

Are boys allowed to refuse the dance request of another boy? 😉

CallYourDadYoureInACult · 14/02/2018 16:46

We had this in school for ‘social dancing’. I grew up in Scotland.

Tbh I don’t really have a problem with it (and I’m pretty keen on ideas of consent).

It was turn about boys asking and girls asking. All it meant was that you did not have the humiliation of asking someone to dance and them
Laughing in your face and saying no.

And yes, you did have to dance with the smelly boys and the weird boys. But the boys also had to dance with girls like me. (Spots, braces, glasses, swot). When the teacher announced “girls’ choice” there was a scramble to get a boy you kind of liked. But if you had the balls to ask them, they had to say yes.

It was a two minute formal dance in a brightly lit room.

Valentinesfart · 14/02/2018 16:46

They haven't changed the policy. So they haven't even caught up with 1803.

I suppose as it's Utah the girl should be happy that she hasn't got to dance with the boy and a few sister wives too,.

PerkingFaintly · 14/02/2018 16:43

Goodness. That school was trying to give its female students less power than Jane Austen ascribes women 200 years ago.

Henry Tilney explaining gender politics in Northanger Abbey:
You will allow, that in both [marriage and dancing], man has the advantage of choice, woman only the power of refusal.

Or apparently not even that in Utah. Very glad the school have now caught up with, er, 1803.

Valentinesfart · 14/02/2018 16:40

The girls have to be inclusive with their actual bodies?

Even at 12 and 13 there were boys who were inappropriate, that's given them a free pass to harrass girls they've already been hassling.

The girls aren't going to be demanding boys dance with them are they?

What actually would they do to a girl who refused a boy?

Melamin · 14/02/2018 16:36

We had these rules at school when I was in the first year at grammar school Confused Hmm The teachers must have gone to my school Grin

TBH disco had been the rage for many years so why we were doing the Military Twostep and the Gay Gordons was beyond us at the time and I have never worked it out. We had to learn it for the afternoon 'Christmas Party' we had to partake in.

I kept getting asked by this short fat boy called Christopher. He was very sweet, not very verbal but an adequate dancer. I would have preferred a better dancer.

A lesson in humiliation.

OvaHere · 14/02/2018 16:33

Ugh. Reminds me of line dancing at school. Boys one side girls the other side. Both sexes hated it with a passion.

GoodyMog · 14/02/2018 16:33

I'd be raging

LengendofThePneumonites · 14/02/2018 16:25

Goodness me! i've jus read their dance rules. That is so much hard work, whatever happened to just spontaneously dancing with whoever you like, however many times you like?

LengendofThePneumonites · 14/02/2018 16:21

I'd have got together with all the other mums then and decided not to bother with the dance. The boys can dance all by themselves.

UpstartCrow · 14/02/2018 16:21

Yes thank you very much Blush

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lunamoth581 · 14/02/2018 16:20

Girls aren't allowed to say no to boys but there is no such thing as rape culture. /s

Happily, the school seems to have listened and are walking it back:

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/02/13/health/utah-school-children-dance-trnd/index.html

LornaMumsnet · 14/02/2018 16:17

@UpstartCrow

Ugh, I've asked MN to fix the title Confused

Is that any better, OP?

UpstartCrow · 14/02/2018 16:15

Ugh, I've asked MN to fix the title Confused

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