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Trans people are not harming anyone

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AmoraObscura · 13/02/2018 09:24

OK, so I've been having various discussions with people about this whole trans thing. The most prominent reason people have for supporting it seem to be that they're not hurting anyone, in fact they're doing themselves a huge diservice, so why not just go along with it as they have everything to lose and nothing to gain.

Also that brain scan evidence shows that being trans is a thing.

If anyone is able to help me out with this, or could point me in the direction of threads which address it, that would be much appreciated.

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Everyonematters · 13/02/2018 09:50

I thought the same as you a short while ago OP.

The thing is, we have separate laws and practices for men and women for very good reasons that no one questions.

With self-Id how do you tell the motivations of someone who 'feels' like a woman.

Currently post-op trans people or those with medically diagnosed dysphoria can legally be recognised as female. This has worked on the basis of trust and small numbers. Most people (me too until recently) think of trans people as those currently already covered above.

The definition of trans now being used is far far wider than that - have a look at swim England.

This person says he is a trans woman.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2876810-Danielle-Muscatos-tweet-on-international-womens-day#prettyPhoto/0/

Why should he be able to go into our daughters changing rooms or women's refuges just because he says he feels like a woman?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2876810-Danielle-Muscatos-tweet-on-international-womens-day#prettyPhoto/0/

LangCleg · 13/02/2018 09:49

Yes. We need a sealion emoji so as to signal everyone not to waste their time.

Horridemma · 13/02/2018 09:46

Some transactivists are harming us

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 13/02/2018 09:46

Sealions

Oh for an emoji...

Pootlebug · 13/02/2018 09:44

I don't think many people are trying to deny that trans is a thing. But if we are relying on science, then xxx versus xy chromosomes is also a thing. And some things should be segregated on the basis of sex, not gender.

Horridemma · 13/02/2018 09:43

Is this one of those spamming threads? Trying to make us all women together.

carrierwaveonly · 13/02/2018 09:41

apart from this one:
www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

and this more recent one
www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17352-8

hipsterfun · 13/02/2018 09:40

Also that brain scan evidence shows that being trans is a thing.

Does anyone happen to know what the ‘best’ existing evidence for that is?

I’d be interested to read it and surrounding critical discussion if anyone can signpost.

AgnesNitt1976 · 13/02/2018 09:30

Trans people have the same rights as everyone else with exception of parts of the Equalities act to protect women only spaces.

Some men will exploit self ID and this has already happened.

I don't hate anyone and wish everyone to live their life how they wish BUT women should have female only spaces.

Btw there is no evidence of the female or make brain.