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busyboysmum · 12/02/2018 11:40

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/jeremy-corbyn-has-a-new-enemy-mumsnet/

I’ve learned that there are some brilliant, learned and compassionate people out there, who come at this from all angles. One (purely anecdotal) observation is that the diversity of opinions within the trans-gender population is not remotely reflected in the bit of this conversation most visible at Westminster. The trans community’s opinions are not as homogenous as some reporting and discussion suggest. So here’s a tip for hacks covering this: don’t just book Paris Lees or talk about Lilly Madigan. Ask Kristina Harrison what she thinks. Or Tara Hewitt. Or lots of other people. The same goes for the ‘radical’ feminist side of this: there’s more to it than Germaine Greer. (Though for some media outlets that really should know better, having any voice from that side of the conversation at all would be an improvement.)

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TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 17:05

Is he gay then?

What did he say?

Valentinesfart · 12/02/2018 17:03

Has anyone asked him if transmen are men?

They asked if he would have sex with a transman. That did not go well.

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 17:02

Owen Jones just defaults to his thought terminating cliche that "transwomen are women" so problem solved for women's organising without men.

Has anyone asked him if transmen are men?

And then have they asked him why transmen are denied the inheriting rights of 'cis'/'natal' men?

makeourfuture · 12/02/2018 17:02

Together we can.

FloraFox · 12/02/2018 16:58

Owen Jones just defaults to his thought terminating cliche that "transwomen are women" so problem solved for women's organising without men.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 12/02/2018 16:58

Why can't anyone else see that these are violent, dangerous men?

I don't know. Perhaps they all know these are violent dangerous men? And are prepared to allow them to attack the verbal women rather than do something themselves?

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 16:56

And yet if an aristocratic woman changes gender to male she still can’t inherit a title or land. Why aren’t the trans activists fighting this?

Because they're only interested in campaigning for men's rights and they see transmen as women.

They know that TW are men. This is about power and control.

These men don't respect their 'allies', they are manipulating and using them. And these people are so desperate to be seen to be doing the right thing that none of them are stopping for a second to ask if they are.

TellsEveryoneRealFacts · 12/02/2018 16:56

I think it's a problem where men are [once again] telling women who & what they are. They see the category of "woman" not as a fully human half of the human race. They don't regard women as fully human. They regard the category of "Woman" as an empty space which they can control and define

They do 'womaning' better than women. What more is there to say?

Valentinesfart · 12/02/2018 16:55

Going to share that in chat as I know some people don't read FWR

Valentinesfart · 12/02/2018 16:52

Yes working now

whoputthecatout · 12/02/2018 16:52

Click on it comes up error

But copy and paste instead and it goes to the article

Valentinesfart · 12/02/2018 16:52

Reasonable response to man spreading. I might try it on the tube.

MyVisionsComeFromSoup · 12/02/2018 16:51

link works for me (Chrome)

Geronimoleapinglizards · 12/02/2018 16:50

That's concerning.

On another note I saw this today. It made me chuckle.

Jeremy Corbyn has a new enemy - Mumsnet
TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 12/02/2018 16:50

Yup it's gone down, link was working for me earlier.

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 16:49

Why can't anyone else see that these are violent, dangerous men?

busyboysmum · 12/02/2018 16:48

They invaded the website of A Woman's Place last week and I know a lot of trans identified males work in IT.

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Hygge · 12/02/2018 16:48

That link in the OP worked for me earlier, now it's not coming up as anything but a service error.

It makes me feel like this has something sinister behind it. There's something very wrong with wanting to close down discussion completely.

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 16:46

This is ridiculous!

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 12/02/2018 16:45

Fuckers have prob launched a DDOS attack on them

WiltedDaffs · 12/02/2018 16:43

Not working for me either.

MrsJoshDun · 12/02/2018 16:40

Can’t even get their home page to load. Have they been doxxed?

MrsJoshDun · 12/02/2018 16:39

I can’t get that spectator link to work either.

And yet if an aristocratic woman changes gender to male she still can’t inherit a title or land. Why aren’t the trans activists fighting this?

TheGoldenBough · 12/02/2018 16:39

No records kept of who updated their gender and when.

The destruction of the current Gender Recognition Register and apologies (and compensation) to those whose information was stored in it

If there are no records of this, or name changes, what happens when someone needs to apply for a DBS?

How will that be checked?

Destinysdaughter · 12/02/2018 16:37

Well this is what 'WOMENS OFFICER' Lily Madigan thinks of us...

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