Another psycho claiming to be a woman to access women's prison

RE The former prison guard's story, the thing is, prisons are full of men like that. There are also lots of people in for random lesser offenses, but every prison will have some genuinely terrifying men in it. Giving them a group of women who're forced to interact with them is like ringing the dinner bell. Pro trans people keep arguing about the human rights of prisoners who say they're women, but what about the human rights of the people who work in prisons? Why are their unions not protecting them?

(Because they're fucking cowards, appears to be the answer.)

Canadian guidelines suggest prisoners can choose the sex of the prison officer he/she is to be searched by. And prison officers will be disciplined and suspended if they refuse.

Officers are not permitted to “opt out” of the strip search of a transgender or intersex prisoner and shall perform their duties as assigned.

I think it's sexual abuse to make a woman strip search a male body, no matter what that male body's brain identifies itself as

In Scotland non binary prisons are being planned - unfortunately that isn’t good enough as TRAs are still protesting and want to be housed with women.

Then the TRAs can go fuck spiders, at DP would so charmingly put it.

Yep. And when they shriek that they're entitled to a female officer to search them, then the officer can say "did you just assume my gender?!".

Meant to add, though - whatever happens, female-bodied prisoners should still have, exclusively, female-bodied prison officers to search them, and no negotiation whatsoever for that. And female-bodied prison officers should not be subject to this kind of abuse.

And male-bodied prisoners should be dealt with by male prison officers and the male prison estate.

I had a friend who retired from the prison service because her mental health was shot to shit.

This will make prison staff even more vulnerable.

Yes, Datun - that is the only logical solution in this utterly illogical situation.

Blimey, though.

I completely agree with posters who say let a male prison guard identify as female for the duration.

a male officer will search the genitalia of a trans woman and a female officer the top half.

Apart from this being completely insane, let that particular guard identify as non-binary.

In fact all the prison guards could identify as non-binary.

Job done.

They are neither male nor female, so no one can object.

No name change necessary, no pronoun change necessary.

Ffs.

It's like living in a world where everyone in authority has completely lost their minds.

I've gone so far beyond peak trans I couldn't even tell you where I am.

Changenames, in the prison service (I can only speak for England and Wales) a male officer will search the genitalia of a trans woman and a female officer the top half. If the prisoner tries to intimidate the officers, then they are restrained and the strip search done under restraint.

In Scotland non binary prisons are being planned - unfortunately that isn’t good enough as TRAs are still protesting and want to be housed with women.

Ah looks like we all think the same! Crossposts.

If they insist on a female prison officer surely a trans woman would be the perfect female to do the job?

Change names - that sounds horrible:(

Maybe some of he make guards should identify as females when these chancers need to be searched?

Fucking hell - the OP and also ChangeNames just above.

Just fucking speechless.

That was sarcastic btw. My head hurts from all this banging on brick walls.

ChangeNames I always think the only solution to this is a 6'5" police woman called Lucy needs to rock up for the search. Lucy could be genderfluid.

What's the problem? Men would never ever do this on purpose.

NCer here. I'm a female police officer and as a young PC we had a 'transwoman' (6'3"+, brick shithouse built, penis owning man) insist that they were a female when they were taken into custody. As this was frequent, and often on suspicion of drug poasession (justified!) it necessitated a strip search which I ended up doing. He spent the whole time intimidating and abusing me and my colleague, calling us frigid lesbians etc, and making it entirely clear they were physically male and much bigger and stronger than me. It was disgusting so I reached peak trans about 10 years ago and I feel desperately sorry for female prison officers if these scum are allowed their own way.

I'm curious why Mr Morton got a bigger piece than the prison officers.

OMD
so Eastwood essentially had a visitor find out all that stuff about a guard?

I can't believe there's any debate around this.

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If they have a penis of course female guards shouldn't be searching them ffs.
All hes done is change his name.

The article questioned whether male or female guards should do the searches - I think men like this would get a kick out of a woman searching them. Just saying you're not called Sophie doesn't mean you can insist on a woman touching you.

Last year it was revealed murderer Eastwood, from England, terrified a security guard so much that she quit her job.

The 22-year-old said she resigned following a chilling encounter with Eastwood who told her seemingly impossible-to-know facts about her private life while escorting him to hospital in Wishaw, Lanarkshire.

Essex-born Eastwood told the guard her home address, model of car she drove and even what her dad did for a living.

This made my blood run cold.

"genuine transwomen"

Oxymoron