Labour lose 3 points - ALL women leaving the party

Reading all these threads with great interest but I'm really unclear about what is happening with the GRA politically, hope someone on here can clarify. Is there going to be a possible policy change in the near future with regards to the GRA and self ID ? Is this why the SNP have produced their consultation survey ? Would any change happen in Scotland first ? I think this is going to be a hot topic for politicians from all parties and it will be interesting to see how those who are feminists respond.

Labour need to ask "who could win this seat?" when selecting candidates. Sadly I worry that many are so ideologically driven right now that this isn't the case

Anti-establishment candidates win by mobilising new voters, but then damage the Party reputation through the very anti-establishment conduct that won them the seat in the first place.

JRM is an utter knob for his anti-democratic filibustering, mind. Even if I shared his beliefs, I'd struggle to support him for that.

I'm not a fan, but Rees-Mogg is an excellent constituency MP from what I've heard.

Labour need to ask "who could win this seat?" when selecting candidates. Sadly I worry that many are so ideologically driven right now that this isn't the case. I also think his fans overestimate the appetite for Corbyn as PM among pretty much everyone other than themselves.

Interesting thanks. I didn't really know anything about him beyond his name. I'll read up about his views.

@OvaHere. Well I would regard that as a net win if the Tories kept Labour out. In a "Lets stay here in the frying pan" sort of way, but still.

I've read in a few places that there is a growing movement for Rees Mogg as Tory Leader - is he viewed as some sort of Trump like figure?

Rees mogg is one of those anti abortion, very conservative religious, bit racist types from what I gather.

I'm quite certain he isn't racist. In fact I'd stake money on it. He is anti-abortion but regards it as a personal religious matter that's never going to make a damned bit of difference in British politics. He certainly doesn't campaign on it. He also believes that if anything, being Christian is a political hindrance these days.

He has a lot of supporters for the reason that he has a great deal of personal and political integrity. You may or may not agree with him but he will give you a straight answer and he is willing to engage in polite civil debate with absolutely anyone. You ask a David Cameron or a Tony Blair about abortion and you'll get a five minute response at the end of which everybody is satisfied and no one is any the wiser. Whereas Mogg will give you a clear reply and accept the political cost. I honestly rather like him.

A lecture of his got stormed by Antifa types a few weeks back and he affably went to reason with them and spoke in their defence on interview afterwards. I don't think he has sought the top-seat or is politically positioned for it, but he's probably one of the best candidates the Tory party has got. Maybe in a few more years.

Why don't all us angry women form our own party!

Or find a party we can get behind!

I've read in a few places that there is a growing movement for Rees Mogg as Tory Leader - is he viewed as some sort of Trump like figure?

Reese-Mogg appeals to the scarce-in-number younger Tory members; he's got a bit of a cult following amongst the Conservative Interns in Parliament.
I do not believe he is a genuine Leadership contender amongst MPs - although after the last 18 months of politics, I wouldn't be sure of anything anymore.

I didn't imagine Mhairi Black would support trans ideology without consideration for women. Perhaps they meet in the middle somewhere!

I'm not sure about Walter the Softy.

He is very right wing religious conservative.

But he is also apparantly, very good friends with Mhairi Black.

And I simply cannot imagine her being friends with him if he's a total arsehole.

So I reserve my judgement.

He's probably like Pence. Looks sorta normal, but would implement a Handmaids Tale-style regime if he ever got the chance. I'm not fooled.

It would be just our luck then if we ended up having the prospect of him or Corbyn.

Never mind AWS we should be having a recruitment drive for lovely people into politics ( and yes I realise the two things are almost mutually exclusive)

He's probably like Pence. Looks sorta normal, but would implement a Handmaids Tale-style regime if he ever got the chance. I'm not fooled.

Rees-Mogg is Softy Walter's evil twin.

I have no idea who I would vote for if there was an election tomorrow .

I couldn’t bring myself to vote Tory but the self ID stuff is worrying and I don’t have the faith the Labour Party will deal with it yet I agree with them with so many other issues. Ditto the greens. Until recently anyway.

Fuck me I might have to vote Lib Dem and I swore I’d never do that.

There’s just not a party for me anymore.

Rees mogg is one of those anti abortion, very conservative religious, bit racist types from what I gather.
Very polite about it all though.

It's going to be galling for some but if this bothers you (and it should) then I think voting Conservative is your best option. I don't believe they'll win. By the time a GE is called the Corbynista will be everywhere. You're basically deciding whether you Labour in power with a weak opposition or with a strong one.

I'm not sure Corbyn will win the next election. He's pissed off more than just feminists. I have a feeling that the last election was his peak, yes he did way better than expected but he still didn't win against a government that was responsible for bringing Brexit to the table in the first place at a point when half the country was extremely het up about it.

I've read in a few places that there is a growing movement for Rees Mogg as Tory Leader - is he viewed as some sort of Trump like figure?

Sorry, it was the previous acronym for the MN Feminist Boards.

@OvaHere I know this is dim but FWR?

By the time enough people cotton on there may be an awful lot to claw back.

Yes. Mission creep everywhere you look.

Labour scare me more than the Tories do these days. The Tories are just the same old fashioned brand of evil they've always been. Corbyn and Momentum are much more insidious and interested in social control. I'd rather be mugged than brainwashed.

It's going to be galling for some but if this bothers you (and it should) then I think voting Conservative is your best option. I don't believe they'll win. By the time a GE is called the Corbynista will be everywhere. You're basically deciding whether you Labour in power with a weak opposition or with a strong one.

I do feel awareness is growing fast. FWR is evidence of that. Unfortunately I think one of the reasons for that is trans ideology is rapidly gaining ground also and self ID is having a backdoor implementation.

By the time enough people cotton on there may be an awful lot to claw back.

Is that it my imagination or does it feel slightly like things are starting to change?

Does anyone else feel slightly more empowered?

In an odd sort of way, knowing what other women are willing to risk to fight this feels empowering.

Is this being reported anywhere main stream on tv, how Labour is losing women because of self Id?

@SunsetBeetch "Fab tweet thread from a young gay woman"

That is so fab.

How much of this is out in the mainstream media??

No comments allowed on the Express article!

Love Carbon's reply there !