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Labour lose 3 points - ALL women leaving the party

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goodyzoe · 11/02/2018 01:42

"The 3-point fall in the Labour share [in You Gov poll] is entirely explained by a 6-point fall among women (from 46% to 40%)"

CON 43 (+1)
LAB 39 (-3)
LD 8 (+2)

@jenniferjames says "Oh fucking hell. I broke the Labour party. :-( "

I've got very mixed feelings. On the one hand - go everyone! They'll have to take notice - surely?

But - Jesus Christ let's not let the Tories have another term.

But - we have to stick up for ourselves don't we.

Starting to think the people who say the rapid rise in TRA ideology is being fuelled by those who stand to benefit from a divided left might have a point. Sad

www.twitter.com/NCPoliticsUK/status/961537001689370624

Labour lose 3 points - ALL women leaving the party
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Myunicornfliessideways · 13/02/2018 11:27

It's become bleeding obvious this morning that Labour have deployed paid political posters to try and undo some of the damage. With sound bites.

They can fuck off with that too. By their deeds shall you know them.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 13/02/2018 11:21

Tory Class genocide

Wtf is that

Anyway while Corbyn & co are in control of Labour the Tories are staying in power for longer

I can now see an end to Corbyn’s power hopefully in time for the next election 😀

TheXXFactor · 13/02/2018 11:02

I think it's probably JJ too, but think we should keep in mind the possibility that it is not.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 11:00

I think it's the cult of Corbyn striking again, apparently once someone has decided that he's Jesus/Neo come to save us all that's that and he must be defended at all costs.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 13/02/2018 10:58

We do need to remember that the poster calling herself Jennifer James may be an imposter.

I really, really doubt this. The posts are consistent with her tweets and with the updates on the fundraiser.

DarthNigel · 13/02/2018 10:54

I realised about a year ago that I am now so disenfranchised by all of the parties for various reasons that I've become totally shit down about any sort of politics. I just don't see the point as I don't feel I have a voice. And that makes me feel very sad indeed.

OvaHere · 13/02/2018 10:45

JJ did confirm on twitter last week that it was her account here so for it to be an imposter they would have had to hacked her twitter too or her account her since she made that tweet.

I do actually think it is JJ, she is just a staunch Corbynite and I suspect torn between objecting to self ID and not wanting to damage Corbyn's leadership.

I personally don't think one can happen without the other whilst Jeremy is taking his current stance.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 10:26

Ze, even, in keeping with the issue of the day.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 13/02/2018 10:24

he, AngryKittens

The challenge would be for him to write a paragraph.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 13/02/2018 10:18

We do need to remember that the poster calling herself Jennifer James may be an imposter.

As I said elsewhere, could be but her reaction to a Kirkup tweet would suggest not.

TheXXFactor · 13/02/2018 10:15

We do need to remember that the poster calling herself Jennifer James may be an imposter. Whoever is posting as her clearly knows her views well, but may be shit-stirring by exaggerating them. For example, JJ posted an update to the Go Fund Me appeal, praising the Spectator article (and just commenting in passing that she disagrees with his views on Corbyn), whereas she appears to be condemning the article totally here. The tone is inconsistent. A clever TRA or general trouble-maker might be trying to discredit the crowd-funder.

Popchyk · 13/02/2018 10:11

make your whataboutery is exactly the reason why women are leaving the Labour Party over this.

Worried about the erasure of women? Why don't you STFU and do unpaid work to solve other issues that the party has deemed are important?

That's about the extent of it.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 10:05

Today's challenge is for Make to write an entire paragraph that makes a coherent point and suggests that she, personally, is going to do something rather than just demanding that other women do things for her.

Just one paragraph. Shouldn't be too hard, right?

makeourfuture · 13/02/2018 10:00

pin everything on home ownership- actually rather Thatcherite.

Not with no social housing. Or tenant protection.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 13/02/2018 10:00

makeourfuture seriously give it a rest of come up with something more than one lined sound bites.

makeourfuture · 13/02/2018 09:58

Tory Class genocide" is a silly notion

You alright? Good.

They are taking poor people's children. There have been tens of thousands of deaths due to cuts.

makeourfuture · 13/02/2018 09:56

boofuckinghoo

Their taxes pay for old people like me.

gussyfinknottle · 13/02/2018 09:51

"Tory Class genocide" is a silly notion. It is also a silly notion to pin everything on home ownership- actually rather Thatcherite.

dogendsaredogs · 13/02/2018 09:45

makeourfutureI have not damned anyone. The young are always angry-it what they do to make up for lack of character. I'm 69yo and I don't own my own home-boofuckinghoo. Nobody know what will happen 40 years from now, probably will be some sort of basic income anyway. I hate your sloganising. Please do post but make an effort.

Everyonematters · 13/02/2018 09:36

*If a gender critical leader is elected I will support them completly.

We are looking at Tory class genocide.*

We are looking at a Labour Party whose current self-ID policy will completely erase a class. Who would be next? They are already self-IDing on race and disability at events.

AngryAttackKittens · 13/02/2018 09:33

I will most likely never own a home either, unless I move to a very different place. Still not going to vote for my own legal erasure.

Make, if you think a gender critical Labour leader is the solution, fabulous idea - now go find one and campaign for her. Do your own damn homework. Don't ask other women to drop an issue that's as vital to them as this, and especially don't do it in a series of lazy, brief, sloganistic comments.

Concrete solutions. Go work on some. We're not your private army.

Horridemma · 13/02/2018 09:32

Momentum probably have a dossier on each of us in line with their Stasi adopted practices. Making.sure that we will be heading off to re-education camps sometime in the future

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 13/02/2018 09:28

makeourfuture

Good try but people are seeing through the momentum rhetoric now. So your bot isn't working Wink

makeourfuture · 13/02/2018 09:26

Of course the young are angry.

borntobequiet · 13/02/2018 09:24

Long time left of centre but support electoral reform so have never voted Labour. Might have considered it if the party began to show sense about Brexit but now, no, never, never, never.
It might be a spoiled ballot for me.

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