Transwoman BFs baby for 6 weeks

We've long surpassed Everest here, this is the Olympus Mons of peaking.

This has angered me so much. My dh is looking at me like a crazy woman. I need to find a little hut some where isolated and self sufficient snd fuck off with my dds

I would have thought the risks outweigh the benefits.

Setting aside the domperidone, IIRC oestrogen levels plummet after birth and during breastfeeding, so the huge doses of estradiol he was taking is definitely out of the range of what would be normal to pass to a breast fed baby, surely? That should have been worried.

But I'm actually slightly comforted by the idea that this was a load of old shit, and actually the invisibilized mother of the child was secretly feeding it in the background, while telling her narcissistic monster of a partner and his ethic-free medical team that he was totally nailing it.

It's not like there was any kind of visible protocol or supervision from what I can make out. Would have been super easy to fake.

I had a new Dad tell me at a Postnatal visit that men could lactate and breastfeed their babies, but the feminist army would never let it happen as we liked to be in control. He wasn't transfer, just an enormous gaping asshole. I felt extremely sorry for his wife and daughter.

*spironolactone, sorry

I should mention, I used domperidone with my first child.
I'd be far more worried about the spirolactone.

That is, if I actually believed this happened.

I think that is a key point though tammy, used by women, who's breasts have been developing during pregnancy for as much as 42 weeks (in my case!) and are producing a little milk already.

No idea how much was needed by this TW but the link below explores different doses for these women (and women only) and the resulting impact on milk supply and infants.

In fairness, I know lots of women who take domperidone to increase supply, especially those with multiples. It’s used for this purpose for female patients frequently.

Just when you thought you couldn't peak anymore, a new layer of batshit crops up and all of a sudden you're looking across a fucking mountain range of peaks.

This is fucking insane.

I'm lost for words. This is dreadful.

That's a really good point about the independent verification that this actually happened, barracker. I've just finished reading Emma Donoghue's "The Wonder" about a girl who, it is claimed, does not eat and so is a religious miracle. I've had a sudden lightbulb moment that this could well be yet another example of the cultish, religious dogma of trans activism - why could it not be claiming "miracles" that haven't actually happened? We already have:

Belief in souls (gender identity)
Huge interest in identifying and casting out heretics and apostates (eg purging the labour party of gender critical women)
Belief in transubstanatiation (a male can literally become a woman, like the bread and wine becoming the body and blood of Jesus)
Requirement for people to mindlessly repeat slogans until they believe them (transwomen ARE women is really a mantra, or a prayer)
Validating internal feelings over external objective reality
Ascribing measurable value to the sincerity with which a belief is held
Thou shalt have no other God than me (#nodebate)

Bloody hell, I could go on and on but I'm starting to sound tinfoil hat so I will stop there.

I'm pretty horrified that this is a thing. And agree with points that there's no mention of the mother not the thoughts for the child.

I do know of a woman who had this drug. I've not got the time to wade through it but this is it on lactmed (which by the way is an awesome resource).

toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search2/f?./temp/~IlBuUp:1

Sorry posted before I said how much I agree!

am starting to feel like I'm in an episode of Black Mirror, this is starting to be so horribly wrong it just feels like madness. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Whether or not the mother wanted to breastfeed is not the main ethical issue for me. If she chose not to breastfeed then the baby should have had formula milk, rather than be subject to this experimentation.

What the actual fuck.

I didn't think it was possible to peak trans any more.

Look at the TIM claims that they are like women but better, women +++

That they are better all round at womanigng - usually what womaning involves is being sexually appealling to men. The language that is used to talk about women's sexual organs is grotesque "dried up crusted cunts" I read today. This is just the same misogyny as it's always been. The easy public acceptance and engagement / money from the drug companies to make it happen makes it more of a threat though.

The whole thing is steeped in an ages old dismissal of women's bodies.

Anything a woman can do, a man can do better artifically.

Is the bottom line. And it's not true. Not when it comes to this stuff.

And yet, they still push for artifical wombs and so on. Why? Because men have always hated that we hold this ability and they can't fully control it let alone have it for themselves.

Did they verify that the man was actually the producer of the milk, and not the birth mother?
Did they test the milk for drug concentrations?
Did they verify somehow that the birth mother didn't in fact produce all the milk and this narcissist man fraudulently claimed it was him?

Course they didn't.
I mean, if you intended to make such a striking world-first claim I'm sure you'd have iron clad proof that it wasn't all a huge fraud? No?

But I'm sure this is in no way a reflection on the validity of the claims.

I am starting to feel like I'm in an episode of Black Mirror, this is starting to be so horribly wrong it just feels like madness. The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

Putting a baby in danger to validate this? Really...

They said "partner" maybe the partner is a trans man and didn't want to.

Maybe the partner was a woman who didn't want to.

Maybe the TIM persuaded / demanded that they be the one to do it to make up for not being able to be pg / give birth. To "share" the mothering stuff.

Who knows - we can't assume the mother wanted to though. But, it's really not the point.

It's interesting, men say we have "taken" their roles - mainly around work and power where in many parts of the world we have removed barriers banning us from certain jobs, positions, etc

Then this happens and they try to take ours - many women feel a very deep sense of wrongness around this. But they say oh equality, you got what you wanted, why shouldn't we have this? And the answer is hard to articulate, but it's about our basic most core status - we are female animals, mammals, we give birth and nurture our young. That is something that has been happening for millions of years and the consequences of giving that ability to men are ??? both for women and for the children that result. Maybe it will be fine. Maybe it won't. History tells us it won't. It's really not the same sort of thing as e.g. driving a crane.

How did this get ethical approval?
I also suspect this will get hearty approval from the sorts of people who would be shocked and appalled at a woman breastfeeding a toddler.

Applauds UpABitLate.

Co-dependant hands over wellbeing of newborn to narcissistic male in the "Mother Load" of narcissistic supply, "Non-Push" present.

Gross.

So the transwoman had a female partner who gave birth to the baby yet lots of effort was made to ensure the transwoman could breastfeed??? What about the mother? Surely it would have been much easier and more beneficial to the baby for her to have done so?