Was Greer Right When She Said Men Hate Women?

Having been with 3 lovely men in long term relationships from 18 to now (36) I’m getting tired of the “all men are horrible” bashing on this site.

Another one who needs to watch the video. Jesus.

It's like an echo chamber. Well done you - you got a good one. . Me too. Great aren't they?

Thank goodness they weren't the type of men who insert a car jack for example, into our vaginas and rip our wombs out. Yay go us, aren't we superior?

Women cannot talk about male violence against women without someone taking them to task for it. The assumption that women are not aware and need to be reminded that NAMALT is just plain rude trolling.
"Have you ever wondered why we [women] are not just in armed combat against you? It’s not because there’s a shortage of kitchen knives in this country. It is because we believe in your humanity, against all the evidence."
Andrea Dworkin

I don't think women would go and kill/rape/attack men if they magically became the stronger sex, actually. I think you need the culture of entitlement that goes with it, which women just don't have.

I read The Power and it was great and fascinating, but I think it would take much longer for women to gain that culture than the writer suggests. I loved that history was rewritten to show that women were the leaders though.

Ray you do realise you are one of those men don't you?? Your hatred of women is palpable.

Not always 10 years either....well the ones that actually make it to prison as so few do.

Lettucepray....I’m indifferent to your anger.

The only people men kill more often than women is other men, though they do not usually rape torture and abuse them first, so there is that.

OP :
“Adalind, I think there is a massive problem with men! I don't know what it is. They have become so aggressive and revolting”

Blind ignorance will get you nowhere.
Having been with 3 lovely men in long term relationships from 18 to now (36) I’m getting tired of the “all men are horrible” bashing on this site.
Maybe don’t go out with dickheads??

They do try and put a stop to it, it’s called the law. Not perfect, In many ways it’s far from perfect but to suggest that men stand by while women are raped and murdered is a bit of a stretch.

Like raping around 100 women, and getting out in 10 years. Real well done there men.

I would t say hated but vertyainky disrespected by the men in my life.
That includes my H and my dad.

My dad is totally oblivious to some his ways and how demeaning it can be and would be really hurt if I was telling him that. Because he actually really care for means genuinely doesn’t see how some behaviours aren’t not on.
H is much worse and has showed total disrespect. The more it goes, the more I can see all men acting like this is refusing to respect women as equal human beings.
I, unfortunately, also include my own two teen boys who have learnt both from what they saw at home and what they saw in the wider society.
It took me years to realise the extend of the disrespect.

Hate is too strong. Indifference probably.

Hate doesn't have to equal murder or even physical violence - what a bizarrely high bar to set.

Can’t we have a chat without the anger Tellseveryone?

Who is angry? Women can swear you know. Whenever the fuck they like. It doesn't mean they are angry - just tired of this same old fucking shit day in day fucking out. Change the fucking record. Or better still, get off your fucking arse and go and campaign for violent men to actually be locked up, and kept off the streets if it matters so much to you.

They do try and put a stop to it, it’s called the law. Not perfect, In many ways it’s far from perfect but to suggest that men stand by while women are raped and murdered is a bit of a stretch.

Is it fair to deduce that men also hate other men too?

Fuckoff Ray.....that enough anger for you?? Oh look man trying to stop women being angry.....gee never heard that before 🤔🤔

We are not chatting with you, Ray. You are insulting us and we are expressing our anger over it.

Men like very much to believe, and in fact are terrified by the idea, that the people they abuse for generations would do the same to them.
Thus the hypothetical of female violence justifies the reality of male violence.

Can’t we have a chat without the anger Tellseveryone?

I'm not surprised she thought that, her father was cold and distant and her husband was a pig.

If it actually were a minority of men, Ray, the vast majority of men could have put a stop to the rape torture and abuse of women long since. Instead, men buy and sell the rape torture and abuse of women as entertainment.

I think if men really DID hate women the murder rate would be 2 a minute not a week.

Not necessarily, murdering the person you are abusing does tend to become rather tiresome. Men would then have to get off their butts and go find someone else to abuse. Men only tend to murder women - especially when in a relationship - when the woman is about to or has just left the relationship. Hence refuges. Safe places, away from other fucking men.

This isn't about all men hating all women, this is about men as a class hating women as a class.

Go on, watch the fucking video that I posted - it explains the position.

No I’ve no interest in porn.

Quintin sorry I couldn’t resist.

How do you prove a negative.
Most people believe in a god, there are churches and places of worship all over the world, books written ect.
Your question is a bit like asking me to prove god doesn’t exist.

Some men are evil criminals, I’m arguing that most men don’t hate women but of course some undoubtedly do. But my argument isn’t about gender, I’m saying that women maybe wouldn’t be any better if they where physically stronger. Hence the levitating above the rest of us remark.

Tell us Ray, what you think might be behind male violence towards women - the two women a week murdered by their partner or ex-partner for instance?

I think if men really DID hate women the murder rate would be 2 a minute not a week.