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Oxfam alleged prostitution cover-up

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HairyBallTheorem · 09/02/2018 15:42

BBC article here

I read the Times article in the print version at lunch - front page lead article, plus two inside pages devoted to it, so if anyone could link with a share token this would be great.

It's about a group of men, senior in Oxfam's Haiti relief programme, having parties with prostitutes (some of whom may well have been under the age of consent). Someone blew the whistle, and the men were removed from Oxfam, but mostly through being paid off rather than sacked. The Times alleges Oxfam then systematically covered up the abuse so as not to cause ructions among the general public whose donations they rely on.

I know there have been other threads in the past, including posts from women who've worked for NGOs saying it's absolutely endemic. (About the only two names which pop up as not being involved and having decent policies against aid workers sexually abusing the vulnerable women and children they're meant to be helping are Christian Aid and MSF).

Does anyone have any thoughts on any sort of campaigning that could be done to get charities to clean up their act.

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NurseButtercup · 09/02/2018 23:05

I read about it this morning - still can't find the right words to fully express my disgust/hurt/anger/naivety

Here is the first article

Disaster zones are a magnet for sexual predators

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/disaster-zones-are-a-magnet-for-sexual-predators-h9nz0pbz7?shareToken=64310d93b693783c29a5280b37fbf714

NurseButtercup · 09/02/2018 23:00

I have a subscription try this link

Minister orders Oxfam to hand over files on Haiti prostitute scandal

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/top-oxfam-staff-paid-haiti-quake-survivors-for-sex-mhm6mpmgw?shareToken=14795aab700e23fb7c62e9986ede0890

capercaillie · 09/02/2018 22:56

This is not just an issue with men. I know of several female charity workers doing the same - it is more to do with an abuse of power of those who have access to funds and those who don’t

OldBlueStitches · 09/02/2018 22:51

I've heard some things about the guy who started MSF too. I can't check them out but it's made me very wary.

Anlaf · 09/02/2018 20:10

This was the first thing I read this morning and I'm not any better able to articulate myself 12 hours later.

FUCKSAKE will have to do.

(I can only get sharetokens to work on OH's apple device- not on android or pc. You can set up a Times account for free and get 2 free articles a week)

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 09/02/2018 18:54

What Lana said. All of it.

The UN stuff is an ongoing scandal that no fucker ever reports.

The Oxfam thing doesn't surprise me one little bit

Angry
LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 09/02/2018 18:27

They can't even be trusted in fucking warzones, when they are being paid to protect people, where they are supposed to be saving peoples lives, where they are supposed to be bringing "peace"

Why the actual fucking fuck would I trust them in a refuge or toilet???

I mean.'..they literally can't stop raping and exploiting women, even trafficked, terrified abused underage girls who have been through immense trauma.

But yeah, if they stick on a fucking dress that makes it all so fucking hunky dory. Angry

OvaHere · 09/02/2018 18:21

Fucking fuckfaced cuntweasels.

Fuck men.
Fuck this bullshit.
Fuck all of it.

I am so so so angry.

FUCKING CUNTING HELL.

Angry

YY to all of this. So profoundly disturbing yet not the least bit surprising.

Why is it again that us silly women don't want them in our spaces?

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 09/02/2018 18:09

Fucking hell Hairy that link! Angry

From the article...

She discovered numerous individuals in the Bosnian and UN police (which was made up of some 1,800 officers from 45 countries) who were not only using trafficked prostitutes but were on the traffickers’ pay-roll

They were paid to give warnings on raids, return girls who escaped or, when rescued girls were repatriated ('dumped somewhere on the border’, according to Bolkovac), let the traffickers know where they could collect them so they could be 'recycled back into the system

Free access to the girls was an added perk

The UN mission in Bosnia finished in January 2003 but the abuses did not end there

In fact, Jacques Paul Klein, the head of the UN mission in Bosnia, went on to lead the UN mission in Liberia, where he presided over similar scandals

Recent years have seen allegations of sexual exploitation by UN peacekeepers in the Ivory Coast, the Congo, Columbia… The list goes on

But UN personnel have hitherto been protected by diplomatic immunity – meaning they can’t be prosecuted in their mission country – and political expediency

So being in the UN, or an NGO, or any fucking charity or aid org is basically a front for evil cunts to get their rocks off all over the world, with immunity from prosecution and a large budget to boot??

Fucking fuckfaced cuntweasels.

Fuck men.
Fuck this bullshit.
Fuck all of it.

I am so so so angry.

FUCKING CUNTING HELL.

Angry
Gacapa · 09/02/2018 18:02

Fucking scumbag bastards.

I no longer give any credence to whatever politics men spout. Too often have I seen it bear little or no resemblance to their actual moral character.

HerBigChance · 09/02/2018 17:58

It's become clearer and clearer to me that lefty/liberal men are just as bad as all the others.

It always has been the case, They've just been better at masking it. Very left-wing men, in my experience, are usually very busy making sure they're understanding the rights of numerous groups of people, some of whom do not have women's interests at heart.

FlaviaAlbia · 09/02/2018 17:57

It's horrific. The initial abuse plus the lack of reporting even though people knew too. There was a good comment too on one of the articles that despite the description from Oxfam it shouldn't have been described as suspected underage prostitutes, but sexual abuse of children and that Oxfam should have known better than to describe it like that in the first place.

I have a times subscription but the share tokens never generate on the links for me, I'm not sure why.

HairyBallTheorem · 09/02/2018 17:55

Warning - the article below is shocking and horrible.

Article from 2012 on Kathryn Bolkovac the former police officer turned private contractor who blew the whistle on Dyncorp and the behaviour of peace keepers in Bosnia.

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Cheekyandfreaky · 09/02/2018 17:52

Fucking disgusting. Oxfam and those men.

Fuck the patriarchy.

Geronimoleapinglizards · 09/02/2018 17:49

This has really, really shocked me.

I feel sick to my stomach. I knew some large charities had bad reputations abroad but I genuinely didn't think this would be happening. I feel very naive now.

HairyBallTheorem · 09/02/2018 17:35

Yes, I immediately thought of the UN scandal (which remains unresolved, as far as I know).

That's a useful link, Lang

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LangCleg · 09/02/2018 16:30

This is like the horrors that happened with the UN staff.

I've honestly given up donating to any of the charities in the large corporate sector. That's quite easy to do when you are supporting local charities because you can do your own due diligence. But much harder when you're trying to support something international.

It's always worth looking here:

www.givewell.org/charities/top-charities

Lottapianos · 09/02/2018 16:27

'I imagine to these men, the poverty and vulnerability was part of the kick'

No doubt

Parsleyisntfood · 09/02/2018 16:27

Bloody shocking, but not surprising. Dignified exist for abusive men, this is surely worse publicity that taking out a double page spread saying “these awful men have betrayed the charities trust. We must never let this happen again”.
Why does this happen in this day an age? Surely an enthusiastic student full of hope sure turn up and find an operational brothel, call HQ and the papers and it’s shut down in a week!
I know why that doesn’t happen. Why must every glimmer of hope be crushed.

IntoTheFloodAgain · 09/02/2018 16:26

But these men. They were looking poverty in the fucking face, women they'd trained to "help"

I imagine to these men, the poverty and vulnerability was part of the kick.

IntoTheFloodAgain · 09/02/2018 16:24

Just think how many people have donated and unknowingly supported (financially) these depraved acts.
It happens over and over again. Men in power abuse women and children, but are potrayed as saints. People know and cover it up.

I’m sorry to say that I wasn’t even suprised when I read the headline.

Now that it has been made public, it will be all over the papers for a couple of days, with the public spitting ‘how could they’, and it’ll all go quiet again. Until the next perverted ‘scandal’. It really is never ending.

UpstartCrow · 09/02/2018 16:24

I'm amazed at any organisation that thinks protecting abusive men helps their reputation. It has the exact opposite effect.

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 09/02/2018 16:20

Sickening.

Know what though, I'm going to subscribe to The Times. Between this and the President's club story, they are one of the few media organisations that seem to be putting at least some focus on women's issues.

Valentinesfart · 09/02/2018 16:16

I expect a certain sort of person to tell me prostitutes are "empowered"! and consenting to Sex work is brilliant rah rah etc etc.

But these men. They were looking poverty in the fucking face, women they'd trained to "help". And they went over an abused the women anyway.

If there was a possibility that they were underage we can assume that they were all very young at anyway. Poor starving empowered teenagers.

Lottapianos · 09/02/2018 16:11

That thread the other day about being sick to the bloody back teeth of men and their entitlement and their using and abusing of women and children for their own sick kicks? Yeah, THAT. Over and over again Angry. There's no end to it

'I can't even trust my lefty male friends anymore....recent conversations with some of them has really opened my eyes to the misogyny all around me'

Even 'decent' men, even the 'good' ones, even the 'trustworthy' ones that we share our lives and homes with - even they just don't get it. And a lot of them don't want to get it either

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