Disgusted by all you transphobes - part two

One of the hardest things to fully accept is that predators go where the prey is. The more we think about that the more we worry.

(witchiwasawitch),as per my answer to previous text ,all same and thank you as well for polite explanation,joe

(Bronwen) a little late in acknowledgment of your answer,had family illness,but just wish to say thank you for explanation and polite reply ,I will now go look as you suggested,joe

I just can't get over this:

if you can't get your head around that I suggest you repeat it to yourself daily until you do

from the last thread. Coming to you straight from the Ministry of Truth. How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?

I know I shouldn't be surprised, because I know that transactivism does attract the authoritarian types ,who would dearly love for women to be "re-educated" into more "acceptable" attitudes towards men, but bloody hell...

Nice thread, pidgeon. I do very much enjoy the work you do here, confusing the hell out of the virtue signallers

Hmm. I see even trans posters get ploppers on their threads to call them transphobic and to apparently call them fake trans as they do not dissolve into fits of tears by the mere mention of the penis being a male organ

I think the Cassandra party a better bet.

Sadly, true.

The problem is that culturally we don't regard attacks on women and girls as a problem at all. They're regarded as entertainment and wank-fodder

Yup.

This is literally all about men still thinking they have ownership over us.

It's not a problem until it's a woman you "own".

Women are fair game unless it's "your" wife/girlfriend/sister/mother.

It's still, and always about ownership and power.

I think the current push to make things easier for predators via self-ID may be a lightbulb moment for a lot of women who have trained themselves not to see it.

I think the Cassandra party a better bet.

the people arguing in favor regard at least some increase in attacks on women and girls as acceptable collateral damage

The problem is that culturally we don't regard attacks on women and girls as a problem at all. They're regarded as entertainment and wank-fodder. Why aren't more of us appalled by the rapey nature of mainstream porn? By the relentless menu of fictionalised rapes and murders of women and children on mainstream television? By our more-or-less total failure to prosecute rape or dv?

Women have trained themselves not to see it. Men just don't think it's a problem.

Yes to Lana's comment about peacekeepers and war zones. There is no outfit that a man can wear that tells you that that particular man is no danger. Even with extensive hormone treatment and cosmetic surgery most trans women don't pass. So, there you are in a space where you're vulnerable, and a male person appears. You're supposed to go "oh, wearing a frock with flowers on, this particular male person is no threat"? Really? Even after you find out what AGP is and how common it is?

It's just not a reasonable expectation, and the blithe dismissal of women's concerns coupled with the "oh well it's not like it will open the floodgates" comments makes it clear that the people arguing in favor regard at least some increase in attacks on women and girls as acceptable collateral damage.

Love this from Melanie Phillips

Maria, the lady who was punched in the face by a nasty boy/trans person. She is feisty, articulate and brave. Would totally respect her.

There was a thread about starting a party recently, the problem we have is getting someone to front it....

Women are in the walking on eggshells stage of the abusive relationship with transgender advocates.
The cryptic remarks that derail conversations coupled with the "you know what you did" routine are common on forums.
DARVO is also a common tactic with these abusive males. Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender.

I think a Spartacus party sounds an excellent idea. Certainly would gain publicity and concentrate the tiny minds of those violent boys in dresses who like hitting the over 60's female.

I read all that info about starting a political party.
I don't have a spare 5K to stump up! But I do think it is interesting, and if we could find backing, does anyone else think there would be interest in a Spartacus political party? One that recognised biological sex and had women's interests at heart.

A pp was mentioning calling men cis-men which I thought was a great idea. Another thought... calling ALL men, women. After all if dicks are now female than that means ALL men are female. How long would real men go being identified as women?

Also noted the men's club have gotten away with men's only without repercussion. How can anyone look at this blatant double standard and think 'yeah, that's perfectly acceptable'?

I'm still new to all this info, so apologies if I'm a bit rant-y

I'm posting this here...it's from the thread about the Oxfam sex abuse scandal....and I've just done some reading on the massive abuse of trafficked women in warzones by UN "peacekeepers" and I feel this is relevant.

They can't even be trusted in fucking warzones, when they are being paid to protect people, where they are supposed to be saving peoples lives, where they are supposed to be bringing "peace"

Why the actual fucking fuck would I trust them in a refuge or toilet???

I mean.'..they literally can't stop raping and exploiting women, even trafficked, terrified abused underage girls who have been through immense trauma

But yeah, if they stick on a fucking dress that makes it all so fucking hunky dory

WitchIwasaWitch18 Love it! Let's all turn into feisty bitches together!

No1 I too have recently changed in the last 48 hours from an easy going complacent liberal type into the descendant of either Boudica or the Morrigan complete with feisty one liners and soapbox moments at work. I rather like it.

AngryAttackKittens Datun stoneagefertilitydoll QuentinSummers
Thank you for your posts. Dammit, they're not actually wanting any resolution are they, just all about the power, isn't it .

I think one of the things happening to many of us on here is that we keep looking for rationality and reason in this debate to find a way through, and then we're shocked and confounded when there is none (rationality and reason, I mean), but yet they keep 'winning' ( or whatever the hell you want to call it ). How can they keep winning when they have no rational argument?

I had another question on a different board, but it didn't get picked up, so I wondered if anyone here could answer it... How the heck are schools (esp Universities, as they are really under the microscope) teaching biology now? Are they really changing actual biology to suite this agenda, and what words can/can't be used?

In our universities I do know that Women's Studies Courses are gone and have been replaced by Gender Studies. Anybody else know of big changes like this?

I feel like I'm getting more shocked instead of less shocked everyday. I'm sure in the next few months I will just seethe and become a stone cold bitch. I look forward to it.

joek I think the OP was replying to a rather impolite poster on the MikePeterson thread who basically called everyone a transphobe if they don't believe a man with a penis who says he feels like woman should be allowed into all women spaces. The OP was defending women against the silly boy/pretendladymen who in reality actually hate us violently.

joek1886 This thread is a continuation of another thread with the same title started by someone else. The OP of this thread re-used the title to keep the discussion which had filled the other thread going, I think you need to read the opening post of the first thread to understand the context as from what you have posted you are misinterpreting the opening post on this thread.

having read all the comments,I admit im somewhat confused as,to the point of this thread,it was started by trans person and yet they take hardly any part in it, why ?, is it to just pop back later and post remarks that no one is about to defend there point ,if it was me id want to engage with people,and hopefully get them to consider my view,,also I wasn't impressed with the tone of first post,suggesting they are better than me education wise,although probably true,its not relevant to this,and I quote "Don't worry, I don't expect an answer. I suspect I lost you after the first syllable " so I didn't imagine this,,and if they aren't reading our posts how can you possibly give an opinion that we are all trans phones,,I defend my right to my own opinion,and its not right or wrong if you disagree with me,it seems to me a lot of minority groups believe I have to change my views ,,again why ?,,I don't know the percentage or numbers,but if the UK ,has 75 million people,and 1 million were trans,,I think ( not certain,im dumb) that means the trans would represent 0.75% of the population,,so I and others the 99.25%,,have to agree with trans opinion or we get told what terrible people we are,,,this makes no sense,,,have your view by all means ,but don't try to force them on me,,after all I've never told you that you should agree with me,,im sorry if I haven't expressed myself well or quickly,,but I feel strongly just because you make most noise it doesn't make you right, thanks everyone who read all of this ,ultimately we are the human race for it to continue,the 99.25% is needed to procreate,as we are meant to ,,without that we die out !! Joe