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We act from deep and well-thought-out conviction. But...

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JellySlice · 08/02/2018 19:15

Today we look back appalled at the women who fought against giving women the vote.

In 100 years' time will history look back on us, on gender-critical women, in the same way?

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OvaHere · 08/02/2018 19:56

I have mused before about whether this is part of a really difficult transitional period and eventually, say in another 100 years, people will be much more genderless or genderfluid therefore male/female socialisation will be less disparate from each other. Maybe (a big maybe) reducing the overall incident of gendered violence.

But then I think biology will always be biology. Women won't stop getting pregnant, men, in particular young men, won't lose strong sexual urges.

Realistically as things look currently it's going in the opposite direction with gender stereotypes becoming very fixed.

I won't be around to find out, which is annoying but on the whole I probably should be grateful for in case it does all go Handmaids Tale.

WiseUpJanetWeiss · 08/02/2018 19:53

Yes I’ve wondered too OP. If we stop questioning everything we’re in danger of becoming a cult too.

But questioning has actually crystallised my thoughts. I am in no doubt that anyone with X chromosomes is male, so is not female. Women are adult human females, so male humans cannot be women. Saying otherwise is on the wrong side of biology.

JellySlice · 08/02/2018 19:46

Sure, Andrew, there are plenty of selfish things we are doing to the planet. There are plenty of things that are now dealt with with a subtle delicacy that was once unimaginable, such as keyhole surgery, and we now look back on what was once cutting edge amazing medicine, as hideously dangerous and aggressive treatment.

But I'm talking specifically about the new assault on women. The Doublethink that may be set in law. The destruction of all that we have gained in the past 100 years.

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UpstartCrow · 08/02/2018 19:44

Today in the Guardian a woman who has to cover her hair from the male gaze announced that trans people are the most oppressed people in the UK.

Fishfingersandwichnocheese · 08/02/2018 19:41

None of you ever wonder ? I’ve wondered even though I don’t believe I am wrong.

JellySlice · 08/02/2018 19:37

Hell no! What makes you say that?

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Everyonematters · 08/02/2018 19:32

Are you Owen Jones, OP?

Andrewofgg · 08/02/2018 19:25

The practice of using expensively collected, cleaned and piped water for gardens may be one of them.

BlindYeo · 08/02/2018 19:24

No Jelly. Because, by definition, men are not and never will be women. Never mind history, I'm simply on the right side of biology.

Andrewofgg · 08/02/2018 19:24

You can go wider than that. There must be many things now taken for granted, by women and by men, which will horrify - or amuse - our descendants. The difficult bit is spotting them.

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