Fucking hell, India Willoughby is seriously slandering Karen Ingala Smith

Men always over reach. Calling for women to be fired for having an opinion, and expressing it, that is contrary to what males want to hear seems a bit of an over reach to most I hope.

Good on you Sunset.

I found this in my screenshots back from when India was laying into Jenni Murray. Looks like Urban Associates (India's agent) are a thoroughly nasty bunch of ageist misogynists too.

Stuck my head above the parapet today and tweeted Dr Williams article. Tried to explain why, but I'll probably lose some right on followers anyway. Ah well, time to take a stand.

I want to have sympathy for India, but I just can't! He's too much of a prick!

So I've been blocked by India presumably for following Karen. Never interacted with IW and a day or two ago could see the twitter feed.

Meh!

I can see it on my other twitter easily!

Can’t see India’s tweets calling Karen hateful and likening her to Nazis and serial killers anymore.

Hopefully lots of reports (I reported them for targeted harassment) and they have been made to delete them.

Yes seems that way. Which is actually understandable. But yet another example of how as a female mp she is nervous about speaking up about this issue; I sort of feel a man would be less bothered? But they'd be dismissed more as they're a man and this issue doesn't directly affect them. Not sure why I feel that.

Jess strikes me as understanding but trying to please everyone.

But has retweeted this...

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/08/self-certified-trans-women-all-women-shortlists-labour

Don't know if you all saw but Jess Philips tweeted supporting Karen

I think the Dalek thing may be penis envy.

@Cecily

See! How do you know India is lying? Lips moving, fingers moving, basically is he communicating in any way? Probably lying.

Hard to imagine anything mobile that's less sexy than a Dalek, though. He's an odd duck, India.

Brilliant article thank you. It's the fucking narcissism.

And it pointed out the case by case basis - of course there's going to be rare individuals who are special cases who need access to specialist services. But the point of a refuge is often that it's a mother with her children. IW and co really aren't getting it.

and I'm going to have to steal the phrase "and no more than world salad" for future use

IW gave the standard MRA response to the subject of male violence that is repeated on every Feminist blog and page since the interwebs were invented or people talked about it at work and at home. I think I pointed it out upthread or on another thread. 10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

I can’t stand all of this. How can India sit there and dismiss how many women are killed at the hands of men whilst in relationships. Only a fool could feel sympathy for the men. No one is saying that all men are bad but a majority of domestic violence is at the hands of men. We just cannot argue with facts. To also say that someone who runs a DV charity has a “one track mind” after being invited onto a show to discuss that one thing, is baffling. Especially when all India can talk about is how much of a woman they are. Pot meet kettle.

Dr Nicola Williams at fair play for women has written an article about #peakindia
fairplayforwomen.com/thank-india-w-showing-us-women-perceive-transwomen-still-male/

The thing that has struck me during and post CBB is how much more offended the purple unicorn/rainbow flag emoji group on twitter are by Ann Widdecombe not accepting "Courtney" as "real" rather than an act, than they are by IW's accusations that AW repeatedly "misgendered" IW. Actually AW said "Courtney" was not like IW and was "an act" and has had a lot of shit for being disrespectful for that.

But "Courtney" is much younger and much more attractive and has a lot more support despite being in a relatively weaker position that IW (i.e. someone who has gone through full transition and lives as IW all the time, rather than JW or IW as suits).

Again, a horrible lesson in the reality of life as a 50 year-old "woman" for IW.

AngryAttackKittens I did actually go and check that at the time IW said it, as I have faaarrr too much time on my hands, and there weren't in fact any Daleks in the episode referred to!

I've reported some of India's tweets about Karen as tagetted harassment for what good it will do. Also sent Karen a quick supportive tweet. I've got peak trans at light speed over the past few weeks. OMG!

I wonder if it is the BBCs position that males can transmogrify or transubstantiate into females, and females into males? I think it would be good if they clarified their position if endorsing male fantasy instead of material reality.

I don’t think it’s a recent thing that IW has been a mysoginistic, nasty prick.

Remember it was months ago that she told Jenni Murray that she was “transphobic” because she dared to ask IW if he looked at Women’s issues differently to a woman because they’d only recently become one. (Go Jenni)
Jenni then got a warning from the BBC

Isadora2007 Thu 08-Feb-18 19:10:38
Gutted to be able to see her profile.

Any suggestions of what i tweet to her?

Encourage India to make a website to honour the memory of all the UK Trans people murdered, by year.
And to fund Trans DV shelters and Rape Crisis.

I can see why he's attracted to Daleks.

And with that Gapaca wins the thread. Though were there even Daleks in the episode he was talking about? If India told me the sky was blue I'd go double check just in case.

Someone who isn't already blocked needs to point out to India that disabled women are in fact women and not a non-woman subgroup.