If you've only recently 'peaked'....

I started questioning things when I was going to Libfem subreddits and posters were posting conflicting views on threads, without realising it. They were just saying the things which sounded the most progressive. So it made me realise that I perhaps needed to look at views from all sides, then Rachel Dolezal and quite rightly people were calling her out on her bullshit, but I noticed she was struggling with her mental health and self identity just like some Trans people. The Libfems were being hostile to Rachel and her mindset but not the same to sometimes quite rude people who happened to be transgender.

I would have arguments with myself and just resorted to people should be able to live their lives the way they want as long as it affects no one else and that I should just forget it. Then just before the Rose Mcgowan incident happened there was a Transwoman with a penis in prison who had been convicted of burgling a house and masturbating with girls underwear, I recognised that this person probably had paraphelia and was completely a risk to be housed with female inmates. This person was a sexual deviant but I went onto reddit and was arguing that there needs to be a middle ground because one persons desires should not come before the safeguarding of female prisoners. Of course you had people, “liberal” men mostly, refusing to accept the middle ground and it made me realise that there is no middle ground for some people.

Then the Rose McGowan incident happened, and looking at the views online and from media sources was just batshit insane and she was being called a transphobic because she pointed out the basic fact that a woman’s and a Transwomans life experiences were not the same and she doesn’t want to be identified as Cis. It made me realise that everyone has gone completely insane and I peaked.

Caucho the Conservatives have shown signs of backing off slightly since this time last year.

I suspect this is a few things, the realisation, now the issue is getting more spotlight, it's largely not going to wash with their voter base. Secondly, they have a coalition with the DUP which is need to maintain their mandate to govern and thirdly Brexit is enough of a headache as it is.

For me it was that poor woman being assaulted at speakers corner, plus the vile treatment of Rose McGowan had at her book launch.
Add to that knowledge that many MTF keep their male genitalia has definitely peaked me, and thensome!

I don’t think being a man is important but always prefix my comments so as to be honest. This whole issue is insane! It doesn’t affect me anywhere nearly as badly as women but it still pisses me off. I do care about women.

I expected such nonesense from far left groups and an Islington led Labour Party but even the Tories are spouting this. The ‘evil racist homophobic’ Tories. I’m afraid the game is up when the Conservative Party is pushing such Nonsense and are being criticised by the Labour Party for not going far enough

Lots of activity on Twitter about this.

fairplayforwomen.com/legal-rights-transgender-people-biological-women/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

In the last week I got called a TERF troll from a TIM when I objected to women being referred to as 'cis' and last night I was told by a woman that 'a real feminist isn't a transphobe' for objecting to Lily Madigan taking a position that should have gone to a woman and for attacking other women since. No debate, just silencing...

They're creating their own noose. I like what Peter King said.

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Ive been watching trans issue for years now and I can honestly say I've never seen a tweet from a feminist threatening violence. It's v common for transactivists to do this.

I've just been told to "piss off TERF" on FB for saying trans men are women. I feel so proud!

This thread on Twitter shows v clearly how much hate they have for us:

twitter.com/rockyredpanda/status/954710818565836801

I have human biology qualifications so I have never believed that men can become women, or boys can become girls. It is not scientifically possible.

I'd always viewed trans as transsexuals who were gender dysphoric, but who clearly weren't women, and didn't pretend to be.

PZ Myers, and his commenters, peak transed me.

@BewitchedBotheredandBewildered it’s true, I sometimes feel like I’m going mad because no one I know (aside from DH) knows or cares what’s going on. It feels like everyday we are sleeping and this movement is winning. Fucking terrifying.

Cheeky, that's one of the most worrying aspects of all this, most people haven't got a clue what's happening.

It's not getting the coverage it should, but there have been articles in the main stream media.
I think people cruise past it, thinking it doesn't affect them.

I talk to friends and family who are reasonably well educated and informed, and none of them have heard of any of this and look at me like I'm losing it when I tell them.

Sorry, a bit off topic.
I'm multiple peaking nearly every day

Maybe we should have another thread about who have we peaked?

@CallYourDadYoureInACult yep my DH warned me that I was slightly coming across as frantic and a bit tin-foil hat when discussing it!

New peak

Genderfluid boy wants to use girls bathroom. Instead of saying no school bars him from playing any male sports and makes him play female sports and grants him access to bathroom.

www.newnownext.com/junior-white-kicked-off-basketball/02/2018/

Reading this is when I realized what Lesbians were so pissed off about.
transgenderreality.com/tag/cotton-ceiling/

Everything, and all at once - it's like once you notice one thing, you see it all.

Lily Madigan
Transwomen in competitive sports
'Transwomen are women'
Self-ID in sex-segregated spaces
Silencing language from TRAs - TERF, transphobe, #nodebate
Medicalising children

I can't believe the thread linked to above is from 2014. All of these things were being discussed then in an articulate way, and I was blissfully unaware. I think I might even have read the thread at the time.

What finally gave me to understand that some of the trans advocacy groups are terrorist groups is when they followed the women and stood outside the venue where the women met after being attacked at speakers corner. The stood outside chanting "burn it down" and the entire neighborhood was so alarmed that they called the police. That was when the women were able to leave safely.

Definitely the Rose McGowan episode caused me to peak.

I was a vociferous supporter of trans rights (and still am - human rights for all). I began to contemplate the peak when it became clear that trans no longer meant people who wanted for whatever reason to transition, but supposedly included every fetishist male who said he was.

There have been a number of peaks since, but one memorable one was someone on a supposedly left-wing supposedly women's FB group posting to say that he was LITERALLY more oppressed by having to present as a middle aged man in his daily life at work than two lesbians who'd been beaten up in the street for being lesbians, because at least they'd been living their true authentic lives, and dozens of handmaidens flocked to agree with him. I hadn't realised to that point that this individual was only a woman on social media!

I'm going to unfollow the Guardian on Facebook because I'm so hacked off with their mealy mouthed opinions pieces this week.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/08/self-certified-trans-women-all-women-shortlists-labour

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/09/transgender-women-labour-shortlists-gender-discrimination

This, plus the way they reported the TW on hunger strike story (failing to mention the prisoner's functioning penis and history of sex offences against teenage girls) means I am completely done.

Destiny that would be correct.

A Woman's Place has had their website hacked and a fake organisation with the same name has just tweeted; Transwomen are women!

I've just spent an hour re-reading that thread Elderslie. Thank you for linking to it.

The OP's posts become more and more unctuous as it develops. Grim stuff.

Oh heavens! This thread has been a education. Like I need something else to get angry about