If you've only recently 'peaked'....

Is that ‘cos they are men? Well, d’uh.

Funny how all these 'lesbians' never want to have relations with other transwomen though.

So who are their partners though? Lesbians? Nope can’t see them attracted.

I know, Fekko. Surely they're just heterosexual or bisexual men who like to wear dresses. Which is fine, whatever floats your boat and all that.

But the men who say they are lesbians really confuse me. Not sure how they justify that statement.

It's about power and male dominance over real women.

Bacause the trans women who go after lesbians are straight men dressed as women, not gay men or actual lesbians.

Why do only lesbians have to suck ladypeenies and not straight men?

What's the difference? Why aren't straight men being told to sleep with intact transwomen too?

Why are lesbians having their sexual preferences dragged into this?

I peak transed my husband yesterday by showing him photos of that Scottish chap in prison for murder who won the MissFitness prison competiton, the Kiwi weightlifter chap and the delightful Hannah Mounsey. Then peaked him again by explaining that of course they hadn't had surgery - most TWs haven't and lesbians are meant to suck ladycock now or they are hateful bigots. He thought for a moment and said, "Do you know what all of that is? A load of bollocks".

www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/man-accused-of-voyeurism-in-walmart-bathroom/

On Feb. 10, an employee at Walmart reported that a witness saw a man standing on a toilet in a stall in the women’s room. The employee said she looked into the stall and saw that the man was masturbating while peeking into the occupied stall next to him, according to the police report.

Kelley was allegedly looking at a 14-year-old girl, the police report indicates.

The employee knocked on the door and ordered the man out. She said the man “said something about being in the bathroom because he was ‘gender specific.’” She escorted him out of the bathroom, but he refused to wait for police to arrive and left the store.

Saw this on twitter and it said everything.

Peak Trans: That moment when you can no longer suspend your disbelief and you fall back to earth.

Horrid

Good luck with that. I still can't talk about it to mine.

Well tonight I shall be making more of my female friends aware of this issue. I am on a mission to raise awareness of potential problems and the erosion of our rights.

Yes it seems to have been passed very quietly with few people realising the implications although Ireland has a slightly different set up and I believe certain sex segregated things are still exempt. I have an Argentinian friend whom I had a lot chat with about it and the situation in SA is very different, the TW there are mostly sex workers who were once technically speaking gay men. Homophobia is still a very big problem comparative to here (not that here is perfect of course).

Omgwtfbbq

Welcome and I'm sorry your friend was dismissive about your concerns. Women are rarely taken seriously despite plenty of evidence that our fears are far from unfounded.

I hope you stick around.

Thanks OvaHere

I have been hiding in the shadows (suppose I still am), but who wants to be slandered as a witch? I don't.
I also started looking at this and how to make people aware of what's happening. I work in the film industry and the recent change in funding (50% men/50% women) was a hard won victory. I'm wondering if the countries that passed self ID so far have actually done it quietly? I can't believe there hasn't been some sort of protest about it in Ireland/ Argentina etc.

Finally making an account after months of browsing...

So last week I was in a loo in a cafe having a wee (I know right, exciting times!) but I'd left the cubicle door ajar as I'd left my young child outside by the sinks and my baby sitting on the floor as the cubicle was too small for us. From the cubicle next door I heard an audible male cough. I was petrified. Absolutely petrified. The last two times I'd used a mixed gender toilet (before kids, in clubs) I had men try to enter the cubicle with me - once with force, once while groping me. I know this person was almost certainly going about their daily business and having a wee and was probably embarrassed to be there but it made me rethink ever leaving a cubicle ajar again.

Anyway, I spoke to a trans friend about this and the general gist of the convo was 'she was in more danger than you were' 'who would assault you in a toilet with two kids anyway?' and also a fair bit of flirtation which just made my skin crawl.

So hello! :) pleased to be here!

Welcome cinematique

It's always great to hear when people have worked out for themselves that the Emperor has no clothes and have actively sought this board out. You seem to be one of a growing number.

Well I joined MN for a start - after seeing a very scary thread on a Twitter link about people not being able to say what they really thought about self ID.
Before that I remember seeing that trans kid on C4 saying he'd apply for the Jo Cox Women's programme - that's when I realized something weird was going on. Then he/she gets elected and things become even weirder. Media carpet bombing of 'transwomen are women' and a witch hunt on anyone who disagrees.

I was always totally in favour of trans rights - and still am - but this has got to be going against the rights of real transwomen as well. I'm quite angry and I can tell I'm only one of many angry women.

"Its like religion!"

More like a cult.

swan we've had some very interesting and lengthy discussions on here about whether gender is innate and what being 'trapped in the wrong body' means.

I think most if not all of us came to the conclusion that 'feeling' female isn't really a thing for us where as 'knowing' we are female because of biology and not liking the stereotypes that spring from that is definitely a thing.

Ovahere that's a very good point. Honestly I'd never really thought of it like that.. have definitely given me something to ponder !

imagine being raised your whole life in a male body but having the exact same brain and mindset that you do

I don't really understand this statement because it suggests there is an innately female brain which I don't believe.

If I was born a male with my exact personality and intelligence level there would be nothing that would mark me out as being different to any other man. Evenuatal differences in mindset would surely come from socialisation as a male.

I don't feel innately female in my female body. I know I am female because of my biology and the resulting treatment I have received from others and society because of that biology.

I don't especially enjoy things marked out as 'female' it's just I'm aware of the gender box I'm put into.

Slightly off topic but If I didn't know who Courtney Act was I would have assumed he was a woman when I first saw the character. He 'passes' far more than most TW do imo.

Ohh I see thanks.

While I very much sympathise with trans people and want them to feel accepted (imagine being raised your whole life in a male body but having the exact same brain and mindset that you do), the Rose McGowan thing pissed me right off.

Also as a gay woman being told I'm transphobic if I don't find myself attracted to MtF / penises

Although I do find drag queen Courtney Act unbelievably attractive despite the penis so I'm not sure how that works lol. Greys areas I suppose.