If you've only recently 'peaked'....

We had one recently coming into work, education related but with adults. He was 6 foot plus, hands like shovels and towered above the other men in the building even without his heels. He wasn't fooling anyone but we were all polite and no one said anything. He got sacked a few months later but only because he was totally shit at the job.

If anyone seriously expected me to leave this guy alone with my daughters in a Top Shop changing room then they'd need their head rearranging. And there is no way I would not be bloody involving the real men in our lives to physically turf the freak out either. Bloody good excuse for the perverts to channel their needs. Outraged I am!

Peaks- being redefined as CIS, erasure of women as a meaningful biological category and the implications for categorisation, boundaries and evidence based decision making, policy etc (I'm a scientist, I value data). Finding out how many TIMs retain male genitalia, Danielle Moscato, women's sports, enforcement of gender stereotypes.

The sheer malice directed at women. From a teenager, the line that most stuck with me from The Female Eunuch, was that women don't understand how much men hate them.

(NAMALT obvs).

The silly Mike Thread with his equally silly "friend" crying his eyes out because we won't call him a woman because he has a penis.

What the actual fuck is going on? Who are these self absorbed noisy little fickers who are demanding to not only have all male rights (of course) but to muscle in onto any perceived woman rights?

I do not want some hairy arsed 6 footer sharing a changing room with my beautiful teenage girls no matter what fricking shade of lipstick he is wearing. Oh dare he bring his hard on into a space where young girls are by using the lie "I am a woman".

Oh I've definitely just peaked! Show me where I sign to stop this madness.

The #nodebate statement.... I mean wtf??? Complemented by early transing of children and the mermaids. Horrific.

corlan

Yes. Lauren Jeska, I believe their name was.

CallYourDad

Yes. I tried to discuss it at a dinner party. Lead Balloon. I have better arguments now though

I think for me it began with reading a thread in AIBU about female athletes and how with how the rules have been changing, female athletes can't ever win against someone intersex or trans with much higher testosterone levels. I really had to stop and think because suddenly it seemed so completely wrong. And I know intersex is completely different but it does tie in in athletics, say, with Caster Semenya being allowed to run against women.

I think what really made me peak was popping onto twitter and learning there was such a thing as a female penis and that I should suck someone's ladydick if I didn't accept that.

I peaked again reading about Danielle Muscato.

And then I keep peaking because it just keeps getting worse and worse. The stories involving Marie Dean and Andi Dier have particularly shocked me.

I think for me it was when the papers were full of a MTT being the first “woman” to fight on the front line, or pictures of the worlds first pregnant man..

I've found this fact sheet to set things out pretty clearly. Worth a read or giving to pp who don't get the issues.

sages.org.uk/publications/sages-factsheet.html

I peaked quite a while ago but it was the reporting of Craig Hauxwell, a convicted sex offender on the run, that tipped me over the edge. When tying yourself up in knots to not misgender a rapist is prioritised over clear facts that would help capture a dangerous offender.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thestar.co.uk/news/missing-woman-spotted-at-dronfield-petrol-station-1-7873814/amp

Women’s prisons, changing rooms, DV refuges, girls’ loos in schools.

I’m all laid back and tolerant normally but this makes me spit feathers

Those despicable cunts. How dare they!

I am also getting increasingly frustrated when any 'liberal' or lefty podcast or news outlet seems to go out of their way to do the whole: 'you can be what you want to be...' nonsense without having thought about it.

I don't pretend to be very knowledgeable about this, but I have definitely hit peak trans, and I find it very hard to hear my natural allies swallow this horseshit and spout it back.

I was wondering though if anyone else is pretty isolated in their community about this? Most people in my social circle have no idea that this is happening. I find I do bang on about it a bit and most people look at me as if I am mad when I tell them about lady penises. Or GRA.
So I wonder how much of the discussion is actually trickling down to the wider population?

The discussion is vital though, as we will have batshit laws before we know its but I never thought that I would be relying on the Daily Mail to save us all from the lady penis.

For me, it was the reporting of the transgender fellrunner that stabbed an athletics official.
The Guardian - a paper that I'd always trusted - originally reported the case but never mentioned that the 'woman' who attempted murder was transgender and had attacked the official because her status as a woman was being investigated.
It seems as if the truth doesn't matter when it comes to this issue.

Reading that the phrase ‘women having periods’ is violence against trans people.

@NotAgainYoda Yes!! iPhone autocorrects fucking as ducking quite a lot

For me it was the battering that Rose McGowan is taking. I'm very much a 'live & let live' person, i assumed that transgender folk wanted equality in terms of being allowed to live their lives without discrimination. That Andi's outburst & the subsequent crap from the trans movement has made me realise that some actually want more, which goes against the rights that us women have to live our lives safely. I have noticed that a lot of the issues are from mtf tho, which is worrying me!

This picture sums it up to me:

Have (MtoF) trans colleagues and never really thought about it all, and we never discuss personal matters at work.

I understand trans people’s concerns about discrimination and risk of abuse and violence.

But for girls and women am very concerned about biological men (who are deemed “women” on their word) in single sex spaces (eg privacy, cultural concerns, risk of attack from a minority of those people), schemes and posts for women going to biological men saying they are women, especially if stats aren’t measured.

The ONS thing blew my mind: these are supposedly logical statisticians and should not have been so easily lobbed!

I still don’t understand the legislative issues. But want to. Always thought Maria Miller had dubious views - understatement - on womens issues so am suspicious of anything she is in favour of.

I also really dislike the sex stereotyping: a boy or man should be able to wear a dress, make up, whatever, without this meaning anything about his sex.

I've been becoming more and more uneasy for a while, but India Willoughby on CBB and the swimming pool regulations have made me raging ( so much so that I bloody emailed the Daily Mail about it yesterday and they actually reported on it!)

I'm also on Twitter and I'm now following a lot of gender critical feminists and some of the stuff they post is v peaking. I challenged a Trans who described women as 'cis' and got called a 'terf troll' a few days ago. Woo hoo!

CallYourDad

Again, being cissed makes us swear

Oh I see you used fuck too.

I think it was the Top Shop changing rooms thing.

The fact that a major corporation that probably does not give a flying fuck about workers rights, the environment etc etc, suddenly caved to some self promoting wanker and gave men the right to walk into the women's changing rooms.
It was craven and so wrong footed. And it was also that they disagreed with the shop worker that took one look at the bloke in stubble and pink lipstick and said, 'Nope you can't go into the room where 12 year olds are changing.'

Or it may be the 60 year old woman being punched by a TRA for daring to try to discuss the erosion of women's rights in Speakers Corner. A place that has always be sacrosanct in terms of free speech.

Or the male nurse with stubble and fat fingers who complained because a woman who wanted a female nurse objected to him treating her because he was obviously a man.

Or any fucker calling me cis.

jaime

Me too (see above, only more sweary)

Hearing the word cis-woman when I am a woman.

I don't care what people categorise themselves as but there's no fucking way that people are relabelling me.

ThePinkPanter

wow....I haven't worn a skirt since I left school and I'm 42!

I wonder what point she thought you were making....how did you respond btw? sorry you ended up having to deal with that.