Which women-only spaces do you use, and how would their removal affect you?

Right okay, but you started off by saying ‘these things don’t affect me, do they really affect you? I don’t think they affect many people at all’.
So do you now seeing that it does affect people, many people?
I have never been raped or sexually assaulted, but I can understand how that would seriously affect women who have.

I have worked on a mixed psychiatric ward before it went single sex, some of the female patients would remove clothing when in the throes of a manic / psychotic episode, as well as other more intimate behaviours, a good example i feel for retaining single sex provision

Thats an evasion, isnt it.

Would not sleep in mixed sex hostel dorm

I have done. There were two women (me being one) and a bloke - who woke me up by masturbating noisily in the night. I felt very vulnerable. Would not do that again!

But this needs to be discussed.

I don’t see why you wouldn’t use single sex spaces, but I am interested to know.

I don’t like using unisex toilets because I don’t want to sit in wee-spray.

I don’t want someone with an adult penis getting naked in a changing room next to my 10 yo.

I want to be able to call out a man in a dress in a female space.

Life experience has taught me many men are not be trusted. That they will embarrass for sport, or humiliate to feel powerful.

I want my girls to be represented by people who understand their lives, who have compassion and empathy.

Isn't roller derby a contact sport?

Have you changed your position now?
You avoided my question about mixed psychiatric wards.

I for one am not attacking you. Posting a different viewpoint is not attacking. I don't think you have to experience something to feel empathy.

I'm also sad about youth hostels - which still have unisex dormitories. I've used these a lot, also with my daughters. Will feel much less happy doing so if men may be in there.

Many years ago I was attacked by a transwoman (not operated on) who was in the youth hostel dormitory with me (just the 2 of us). I had no idea they were a transwoman. I annoyed him by switching on the light, and he jumped out of bed, punched me extremely hard, and threw all my belongings out of the room. He was banned by the Youth Hostel Association, but when I went to a different youth hostel the next weekend, he was there again, in my women's only dormitory. I was told that he had been caught in a women's public toilets, exposing his penis to a girl, and was cycling around the county with his collection of sex toys.
At that time it was youth hostel policy for transpeople to have their own private room.

I know a lot of women who've stopped going to derby and in some cases it was their only exercise and/or social outlet

Wow!! The bouncers took you seriously and didn't just try to cop a feel themselves? Charmed life indeed

Sex-segregated spaces are there for a reason. Those reasons haven’t gone away.

Men need to start calling out other men on their behaviour.

This whole debate makes my piss boil. Whether you personally us them or not, they are necessary. That’s the thing with being a woman, empathy and compassion. We’re bloody good at that stuff. Other types of women could learn a lot from us.

I have never asked for a specific doctor or nurse so I’m not sure of the proceedings. Can you ask for someone else, just if you feel uncomfortable with the person assigned?

This touches on an important point in this debate, just because women don't complain doesn't mean they're happy with a situation especially when you take into account female socialisation - putting others feelings before your own.

Many women when presented with something i.e a male HCP will just accepted it, where as if presented with a choice they'd choose a female. Being able to ask for someone else in the first instance is immediately psychologically off putting as it can be seen as "making a fuss" etc and some woman may not even know they have a right to do it where as being given a choice at the outset is easier.
There are many subtle ways that folk can be pressured into accepting things that they don't really want to.

There is also the question of peer pressure. A pp mentioned TIMs being welcomed in roller derby. From my knowledge of this (and my knowledge isn't great so absolutely willing to be corrected) it attracts a lot of younger women who as a group I'd imagine, would be more accepting of TIMs as women.

Being a GC young woman and going against the peer group would be hard and probably only get you ostracised and so maybe you stop taking part. I'd imagine that roller derby then seems very accepting of TIMs because all those objecting either leave or keep their mouths firmly shut.

It can seem so easy and obvious to say no to something until it isn't...

I have been in hospital for a considerable number of days in the last few years. I was often covered in blood, I would have struggled to walk past men in my blood stained night gown to get to the loo.

I will now no longer go swimming or to the gym because I cannot get changed near or in front of men.

I will not use changing rooms because I cannot get changed near or in front of men.

I will not use public toilets because of the above.

I am grateful I do not have to use a refuge but here is a link to a thread in which I describe how needing a women’s only space was important to me as a 9 year old in a domestic violence refuge.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3160220-to-write-to-Women-s-Aid-and-ask-you-to-do-the-same-if-you-value-their-services

Have teenage daughters and we live in Scotland - we would be affected by the new rule on residential trips, at school and activity groups, where boys will be able to share dormitories and showers with the girls, however much the girls object to that, and parents will not be informed. I suspect that this will lead to no residential trips happening anymore, as the school and other organisations will not be able to safeguard effectively.
If an intimate procedure, eg smear test or even a mammogram, much prefer a woman. Also, when a doctor calls someone in as a "chaperone" it is a woman - may now be a man. Having said that, I have been given an intimate procedure by a man in the past - I objected and was told off for objecting. He was not a transgender person.
Swimming baths - I prefer to use the women's communal changing rooms where there is a shower with just a shower curtain, and women change in front of each other. I don't much like the tiny unisex cubicles, and I don't really like unisex areas around the cubicles - prefer all women. I don't want to see penises in the showers or changing room, and I certainly don't want my daughters to see them and to have to shower in front of men.
I will miss women's sport - not interested in watching its death throes (eg a transwoman beating women to a pulp in the boxing ring, as has already happened). And then what? Transwomen competing against each other?
Don't want to be in a mixed hospital ward when I am dying of cancer, or whatever it is that kills me off.
Not happy about unisex changing rooms - for teenage daughters or myself. Don't want harassment or abuse, which is more likely if men are there.

You have lived a charmed life, OP.

Post after post of women it does affect.

Mainly hospitals for me. My old gym was open changing rooms with benches, so that would have bothered me too, but new one has individual cubicles. And being patted down by security staff - I get this maybe a few times a year, I wouldn’t want it to be done by a man.

Also though I have worked in a job where I did personal care for vulnerable people who had the right to request a same-sex worker in that role (& got it by default if they weren’t able to ask, as many weren’t).

Loos
Changing rooms, including shops and gym.
Not explicitly a woman's only space but was very glad when I visited the colposcopy suite that everyone there was a woman.

In the past couple of years I've been able to see a male GP but I think that's because I've been treated with respect whenever I've requested a woman, and I built up a level of trust that allowed me to try this out and it's worked ok so far.
This is a huge thing for me - have only noticed when writing the above out how huge.

I get that you have an interest, catscan, but please bear in mind a lot of women who prefer sex-segregated spaces may prefer these for quite sensitive reasons, and might not want to be open about those reasons, as often we have our concerns dismissed.