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JenniferJames · 07/02/2018 05:32

Am I allowed on here with my kids both grown up? 🤔
I just wanted to say omg thank you thank you thank you SO MUCH for your support for the crowdfunder to keep Labour all-women shortlists just for... err... women. £22,000 now and my sisters here booted it into the mainstream.
Anyway will check back in case anyone has questions.
You Are Mighty
Jen 😘😘😘

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Ohforfoxsakereturns · 07/02/2018 15:27

Ah thanks!

Sorry to question, but have been here long enough to know things can go tits up quite quickly.

(Hope MN have extra staff on tonight)

OvaHere · 07/02/2018 15:23

Great. Thank you Jennifer Flowers

Ostrichnomore · 07/02/2018 15:13

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NameChangeBecauseImMortified · 07/02/2018 14:16

You are awesome! Don't lose sight of that - we all appreciate what you are doing for us.

OvaHere · 07/02/2018 14:14

Yes, they just replied and said as much. I guess it's up to JJ to independently confirm by other means.

Wedgecheese · 07/02/2018 14:12

I've reported and asked MNHQ to verify. I don't want JJ, assuming she is genuine, to feel unwelcome and the thread turn into a fight.
I did a while ago and mn just said basically they can't verify anyone, Jennifer, could you perhaps tweet off your account related to this, to put people's minds at ease! I'm sure you understand people's worries with all the doxing and lists etc that went on!

Ohforfoxsakereturns · 07/02/2018 13:24

Well I didn’t want to kill the thread! Apologies, am a big fan of JJ and the campaign. Have hit peak trans several times over. I have no reason to this this isn’t who the op says she is, was just joking (but doesn’t hurt to raise an eyebrow).

Collidascope · 07/02/2018 12:58

Fox, I was just thinking that. OP has even left the odd kiss at the end of her posts! That would be great trolling.

Ohforfoxsakereturns · 07/02/2018 12:33

Eww what if it’s not JJ and is infact LM 😄 oh how we’ll laugh! (Obviously isn’t BTW)

(I sincerely hope it is JJ as absolutely support the AWS fund despite it rejecting all the donations I’ve attempted to make).

TheNerevarine · 07/02/2018 11:54

Hypothetically speaking, on the off-chance that the OP is a troll and someone were to provide them with details of their name and LP number, and then found themselves on The List, exactly how much shit would the creators of The List be in if those details couldn't have been obtained in any other way, except through a deliberate attempt to mislead?

You know, hypothetically speaking. On a scale of 1 to 10? 'Cause thinking about it, I suspect the ICO would take a very very dim view of that behaviour, and if I was more of a Machievellian type I might suggest someone could, oh I don't know, join Labour deliberately and somehow whoops! let them get hold of their details in a way that means usage of those details would be a clear and deliberate violation of data protection laws. Would be an interesting experiment, no? Smile

But yes, welcome, Jennifer

Terftastic · 07/02/2018 11:20

Don't worry about people being cautious, Jennifer - in the past we have had some horrendous trolls on here - pretending to be who they are not - to emotional and financially fleece people.

I'm not for a second suggesting you are doing that, or that you are not Jennifer - just don't be offended that people are wary Smile

You are most welcome here.

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OvaHere · 07/02/2018 11:02

I've reported and asked MNHQ to verify. I don't want JJ, assuming she is genuine, to feel unwelcome and the thread turn into a fight.

titchy · 07/02/2018 11:00

Maybe OP could post something on her Twitter, but post here half an hour before hand?

OvaHere · 07/02/2018 10:57

Please be cautious about providing any personal info, not everyone is who they say they are...

Yes this is always important but I do think the OP is JJ, I've followed her social media and her posts ring true.

I'm sure it would be very easy for JJ to verify with MNHQ which perhaps would be a good idea.

titchy · 07/02/2018 10:57

Yeah womenZ, hon, babe...? And posting an email address?

Careful people... Use Twitter if you want to contact JJ - you know it's genuine.

onwardsonwards · 07/02/2018 10:54

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FedUpWithBriiiiiick · 07/02/2018 10:29

Is this the real Jennifer? Posting style seems... strange.

Please be cautious about providing any personal info, not everyone is who they say they are...

DontCisgenderMe · 07/02/2018 10:15

Hi Jennifer, another donor here adding my heartfelt thanks.

Great to see you on here.

We will not be silenced!

SmurfOrTerf · 07/02/2018 09:34

Adding my support

Datun · 07/02/2018 09:28

The day you started that crowd funder was a tipping point.

Because £22,000 has been raised by people donating a few pounds at a time. Waiting for payday, then doing it again. And again.

Normal, every day women. Who don't have to understand feminist theory, or politics, the only expertise they need is that they are female.

And the only thing that our political parties need to know, is that we vote.

Women are not going to vote their rights away.

But it's fairly typical for men to think they can coerce them into doing it.

Thanks for having the guts, which should not even be necessary, to say no.

Stuffofawesome · 07/02/2018 09:03

thank you Jennifer, you are indeed mighty. My heart sinks when I hear labour politicians crap on about self ID. Wake up FFS. Even WEP don't protect the notion of women as a sex so who the hell is going to stand up for women's rights? Utter omnishambles. Keep up the good work, you might be out on a limb but we're all shoring you up from underneath.

BetsyM00 · 07/02/2018 08:57

Good to see you here Jennifer!

I'm delighted you took a stand we can all get behind and support. Just a question about what happens now - is there an internal procedure to be completed before any legal action? Does Labour have to give a decision in writing and we appeal it first? Or is it enough that Corbyn said self-id during a TV interview? Hmm

Freshlylaidterf · 07/02/2018 08:40

I work with young people and I can’t describe to you the unholy mess that this intersectional liberal feminism shite has made in schools

^^
This.

BoreOfWhabylon · 07/02/2018 08:37

Welcome to Mumsnet Jennifer!

Clcky link to Morning Star article for@PerfPower

morningstaronline.co.uk/article/the-gender-debate-is-dividing-the-left-we-mustn-t-forget-that-our-unity-is-our-strength