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It's not just "safe spaces" where I don't want transwomen

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k2p2k2tog · 06/02/2018 17:13

I have just had an email from my daughter's school about increasing activity levels in teenage girls, tackling the obesity epidemic, offering experiences to girls to try a new sport.

So the council has teamed up with a local judo club to offer GIRLS of Secondary school age in Scotland (so by this stage in the school year aged 12 to 18) the chance to try judo in a female-only environment, with female coaches. Fantastic idea.

This is the sort of thing where Councils will be be forced to accept boys identifying as girls. Boys who are much bigger and stronger than my 12 year old daughter. So what will happen? The girls won't go to the class, because they're not daft and won't want to be thrown about by a mahoosive 6 foot something transgirl.

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k2p2k2tog · 06/02/2018 19:17

Yeah it's hypothetical. But it's pretty much the first real life example I've come across which I can relate these changes proposed under the proposed Scottish legislation to my life, and to my daughter's life and clearly understand the impact it would have on her.

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Sohardtochooseausername · 06/02/2018 19:13

Isn’t this all a bit hypothetical? I am on the fence as some of the trans stuff really bothers me but at the same time isn’t the number of teenage boys wanting to be girls who also want free judo really a really small number?

ShotsFired · 06/02/2018 19:08

What is the female girls just united and refused to compete with any trans participants?

Just stood together (perhaps pre-organised) and said "no. We'll compete fairly and squarely against each other, but not unfairly against a male, be-penised individual"

?? Should we start direct action like this maybe. Calm, rational, factual peaceful protest. Every. Single. Time.

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k2p2k2tog · 06/02/2018 18:56

In Scotland they are very much going down the "anyone who says they are female will be treated as such" rule so no, at this low level "taster" session introducing girls to a new sport, there is every possibility that they'd accept a transgirl. It's not about competing, it's about new sporting opportunities and free sessions to encourage girls not to stop being interested in sport.

And in fact they'd be falling over themselves to offer a transgirl a place as it shows how right on they are.

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mummybear701 · 06/02/2018 18:04

I might be missing something but wouldn't this invoke the sporting exemption on grounds of physical strength, much greater than at primary school stage? I wouldn't want DD doing a very physical sport with someone physically male either.

InaConfusedState · 06/02/2018 17:27

Ha - I got that the wrong way round Grin. F2m in a men’s competition wouldn’t have much chance of winning!

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k2p2k2tog · 06/02/2018 17:26

Agree in general on the competition thing - judo and other combat sports are sorted by weight so you'd never get the situation of a 100kg transwoman competing against a 60kg woman.

But this is more about being a teenage girl, awkward, self-conscious, not wanting to exercise, uncomfortable among boys. Feeling that breaking sweat and getting red in the face is unfeminine. So schools and councils recognise that issue and try to put on women only activities in an attempt to keep girls fit and healthy. And the way things are going, they will be legally obliged to accept anyone into the sessions who says they identify as female.

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motmot · 06/02/2018 17:26

I agree k2p2. I'm also in Scotland and worry about our government's desperate need to look progressive and cool wrt the self id agenda. As a side note, I hope your daughter takes it up- my son does judo and the number of girls doing it drops dramatically as they get older.

ElfrideSwancourt · 06/02/2018 17:24

Agree completely- my DD plays rugby I don't want her playing against boys/men it's so dangerous in a contact sport.

Charismam · 06/02/2018 17:21

Yeh women should not have to compete against transmale2females. Who'd bother entering?!

InaConfusedState · 06/02/2018 17:18

And if by some chance they do go and they compete against girls find they’re really actually quite good and want to compete professionally... they’ll have every chance of being beaten to any medals by f2m transgender people who’ve had all the privilege of testosterone, bigger skeleton, denser bones etc etc.

I think women really are being thrown under a bus. What’s the point of the authorities bleating on about girls being disengaged from sport when they’re taking away the things that give girls a chance to actually compete fairly?

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