My identity

Fuck of with this 'transtranswoman' shit. I am a metatranswoman

@UpstartCrow

you are brilliant

Italian Pretty sure the woman who posted it is a GC showing the hypocrisy and irony of self i-d, could be wrong but I thought I had read that somewhere...

@TinyRick I read the closet link about a year ago. I thought it was a total joke. Now I do wonder.

What is hilfuckinglarious is the words like "how can you identify as'; 'words have meanings'. Lol!

Riverside2
Missy, there's always going to be several trains of thought about things

Trains? Trains? You can fuck right off with that anti transtrans bull shit. Trains are penis shaped and they go into tunnels.
Do better.

Oleanna, thanks.

I guess my gay best mate wouldn't be popular there either.

Okay, I actually feel better and have renewed energy for the fight!

Riverside - pretty much. Family is everything. Even if is the sort of family set up where the man has a wife and kids but also has a mistress and kids, and everyone knows about it. A "good" husband here is someone who doesn't have another family, doesn't drink the housekeeping money and doesn't knock you about...

No offence Oleanna but that gives me perspective

I'd definitely rather be here

I'd guess the place you're in despises single childfree women?

Sounds like a good life plan olennas. I don't think anywhere where there is other people will ever be perfect..

A female penis?.... Surely an oxymoron OP?
Yours,
The cheerful pessimist

Omg all you transtranswomen are LITERALLY so brave, I’m behind you all the way and OF COURSE I will dye your hair pink you are FABULOUS

I think it would be nice to go somewhere remote and come back in a few years to see how it's working out

That is my current life plan! I'm not in the UK, living somewhere where none of this is an issue and people would look at you as if you were totally bonkers if you said the words "female penis". It's not all a bed of roses here though (no legalised gay marriage, high rates of DV, divorce difficult to obtain, abortion only in limited circumstances, for example)

I actually think there's even more to it than that....
I think this along with other identity politics is there to create chaos and undermine existing social structures.
I can see some similarities between what's going on and the rise of Mao in communist china... where red guards went around beating up people who were dissenters. There was an effort to destroy anything that was associated with old culture and traditions
I think it's communism, and a dictatorship that will come out of this.

• I mean, look up how it's working out.

but it's pretty clear, it's all about silencing women.

Missy " I think it would be nice to go somewhere remote and come back in a few years to see how it's working out"

I would just like to go somewhere remote, sunny and not come back

perhaps if there's internet access I could just look it up!!

I really does make me feel sad, it's like humanity is pressing its own self destruct button. I think it would be nice to go somewhere remote and come back in a few years to see how it's working out. I'm really expecting it not to go well, I'm waiting to see what horrible conclusion this all reaches.

Missy, it's really difficult, but unless we can live like hermits, we do need to keep up to date, sadly.

That article, to think some people actually think that way...
To strip away any source of identity, even down to male, female... is the most dehumanising thing I can think of.

I am facing having to break the news to DH that he is married to a transtranswoman. I wonder how he will take it (I feel it is important to centre the male perspective, obviously).

I sometimes think I should just stop coming on here and cut myself off from any news source because it makes me feel like crying

This is one of those subjects where you need to get people to understand little by little

• because otherwise they'd think you were just making it all up.

Riverside- yes I had seen that article, it's shocking.

What on earth is a female penis???? So you want all the perks of being a woman but still refuse to let go of the idea of having a penis of some sort? Why? Does the idea of having a vagina offend you?

The idea that a 'female penis' is a thing is a deadly serious one, by the way. See the 'cotton ceiling', and the pressure put on lesbians to have sex with transwomen who haven't had an op (which is most of them), because 'transwomen are women' and therefore their penises are female penises and it's transphobic for a lesbian to not want to have sex with a female penis because it's female, obvs. Funnily enough it doesn't seem to work the same way with gay men and transmen. Odd that, innit?

gendertrender.wordpress.com/tag/afab-transwomen/

I found this enlightening article that made things much clearer for me....

I got to here...
Female and male are not biological categories denoting reproductive specificity because there are no such stable categories. And if there were, it would be wrong to name them, because identifying any category of humans with a term based on a physical characteristic they all share (tall, diabetic, brunette) erases their humanity....:

I should think if I were diabetic and about to go into a coma, then I might quite like someone to identify me as diabetic....

I seriously despair for humanity.