Woman's Place UK meeting in London, 27 Feb

Arf

I will be wearing a badge that says "Cinnamon Rolls not Gender Rolls"

Agree with BeUpStanding

I have no idea where the venue is but will be meeting at a pub in a central place. It may or maynot be close to the venue. I have no idea. If you would like to meet up please do PM.

And as for the venue, the TRA's may have bought a ticket or two so may easily find out anyway.

I understand the concerns but to my mind the benefits of us meeting is worth it. Why should we let ourselves be scared into not meeting? And it poses no risk to the event organisers.

PM me if you want to know the name of the pub where some of us will meet beforehand. Let me know any Twitter or other social media profiles you have that I can check out.

Can't wait to meet you fabulous ladies!

I hope it's going to be a great, educational meeting for everyone who can attend - I wish I could but am unable to due to location & prior commitments.

Also, may I just point out how very, very uneasy I feel about the (completely legitimate!) discussion on here about how to stay safe while attending what is essentially a meeting of like-minded individuals on a topic of current political interest. I have friends who grew up in the Eastern Bloc who had politically active parents - the tactics described on here sound horribly like those used by clandestine underground movements in totalitarian states.

Have we really come to this? Because it's HORRIFYING!!!

Just popped in to wish you a great meeting, and looking forward to hearing all about it afterwards - the serious stuff of course, but also your experiences of sidling up to each other holding packs of naice ham...

That's it isn't it? The tickets are cheap. Any TRA can buy one and find out the venue. You can't keep something like this a secret in reality, unless you restrict the meeting to a tiny number of people.

Have courage. Most people who threaten violence online are all hot air who have things in their life that they value enough not to want to risk losing them. I don't mean to minimise any aggressive acts which have previously been carried out, because one is obviously too many, but it's one thing to make a noise and be full of it online and quite another to actually be violent in person.

It's like living in a totalitarian communist state with the thought police round every corner shutting down any dissent.

I agree. It's crazy.

And I don't want to advertently minimise any risk.

But, any transactivist can buy a ticket and go to the actual meeting.

There is no publicity to be had in intimidating women who are in a pub beforehand.

And they don't have to follow women to find out the venue. They just have to buy a ticket, like everyone else.

I suspect their main job will be to get the venue to pull out.

I'm so angry about this. I messaged another mumsnetter about meeting up but all the time I'm paranoidly thinking "this could turn out to be a 20 stone docker in a frock". How the fuck did we get here? It's 2018 and we are having to meet in secret.

I think beupstanding has the name of a pub. But she will have to be sure of who is asking, that's all.

It can't give away the venue, because we don't know where the venue is. It's just a central location.

I'm suyre we can meet up afterwards for some liquor

Good point Christina. Will not bother with meet-up. Loved In the bleak Mindwinter btw.

Well said Christina

I'm sure if someone emailed the organisers and asked them to suggest a nearby pub for meet ups when they announce the venue, they would do that.

Attendees will receive an email some time tomorrow.

If there are any protestors (very likely unfortunately), they'll be immediately outside the venue. If people feel nervous about walking past them alone, wait nearby for a moment or two and follow someone else in.

It's absolutely unbelievable that we need to be doing this in 2018 for a meeting to discuss legislative changes, but it's more important that the meeting goes ahead.

Just checked email so OK
If people feel threatened or harassed please call police. It is what they're there for.

When is the meeting being disclosed? It makes a difference what train I come in on. I hate the tube more than a load shouty wannabees.!

Ok that sounds sensible christinarossetti I have already PMed sweetgrapes but will PM again and say not to worry. I think it is just the worry of going alone and facing nasty TRAs that makes us want to go with other Mumsnetters!

I may purchase some Pom bears though and shake them at likely-looking women!

I agree Christina.

And I think you are far more talented than your reprobate brother

Although I don't post very often, I do want to say that I think it's very unfair on the event organisers that people are planning to send messages, even pms, that even vaguely identifies the venue or the area it's in.

WPUK are going to enormous efforts to avoid confrontation and enable the meeting to go ahead as planned, and it seems very unhelpful that discussions about organising meeting places are being had on a public forum.

This meeting will likely be more on TRAs radar than others, simply because it's in central London. As attendees, I think the right thing to do will be to respect the request form WPUK to not divulge the address/approx location in anyway on a public forum or via pm to people you don't know personally tbh.

It's looking to be quite a large event. Anywhere in central London will have lots of people around early evening during the week.

I think the safest thing to do for people who would prefer to approach the venue with others would be to hover in the nearby streets with an identifying something - penis beaker placard, packet of Pom bears, carnation or something else and find each other that way.

Honestly. The moment the venue is announced, they'll face pressure to pull out. That's what's happened at every other event. This information will get out and it's unfair and unhelpful to compromise WPUK's hard work in this way.

Okay, my two cents worth. Rant over.

I NC for this.

I won't be able to make this meeting, but would any of you going be able to print out a copy of this Sex Matters! document or this more printable version to do a bit of a temperature check on it with the people there - see if anyone would like to get involved?
I'd really appreciate feedback.

Thanks if any of you can
Have a great meeting!

Thank you Empress I wasn't sure.

I am going to both.

Two different events, Bagel. The Millwall one is part of the We Need to Talk series.

Could someone enlighten me, please. I was thinking about getting a ticket for this event.

However, I've just seen an event is taking place at the Milwall FC ground - is this the same event as the Women's Place event or a different one entirely?