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Lots of feminists on radio/TV today re Women's Aid/Refuges

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BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 10:02

Karen ingala-Smith vs India "I'm a real woman" Willoughby on Good morning Britain (ITV)

Dr Nicola Williams vs Aimee "non-man of the Green Party" Chanellor on Nick Ferrari (LBC) - this was brilliant and well worth a listen, if you only pick one!!

Karen and India round two on Julia Hartley-Brewer (talk radio)

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GuardianLions · 05/02/2018 16:36

OMG IW is clearly team penis!
Go GO GO the Patriarchy!

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BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 16:31

It was along the lines of “I look at your website and feel sorry for men”

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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 05/02/2018 16:28

No she explicitly said she was sorry for men because they were being 'demonised' Hmm

Thehairthebod · 05/02/2018 16:26

I have found her quote?

Did she mean 'women' when she said 'men'? (I mean we know this stuff is a minefield these days!)

Did she mean she feels sorry for men that they act in such a terrible way? But she neglected to mention women?

The mind boggles.

Thehairthebod · 05/02/2018 16:22

And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men! There's only one kind of person who can look at that website and feel sorry for men .........

What did India say? Is there any way she has been misinterpreted here? How can anyone look at Counting Dead Women and say they feel sorry for men? Sorry for them in what way, I don't get it?

Like, it makes me cross when people say that #metoo makes things hard for men as they don't know how to react etc, and I really don't agree, but I can see what they mean.

I don't understand what IW meant by that comment?

DeleteOrDecay · 05/02/2018 16:06

Well IW has shown her true colours there hasn't she. Absolutely zero concern for the needs of the women who are directly affected by this, plenty of waffling on about NAMALT.

Make of that what you will.

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BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 15:49

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Lots of feminists on radio/TV today re Women's Aid/Refuges
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TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 05/02/2018 15:14

india's argument basically boiled down to 'women should suck up being abused and murdered and stop making such a song and dance about it'

Lottapianos · 05/02/2018 15:09

'And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men'

You're right. Dear god,the arrogance and the narcissism. Shocking

rowdywoman1 · 05/02/2018 15:06

I thought Karen came over really well - it must have been difficult to talk over IW's "real women" mememe talk without sounding rude - but she managed to be assertive and remarkably calm.

And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men! There's only one kind of person who can look at that website and feel sorry for men .........

kareningalasmith.com/

The oxygen of publicity just exposes the misogyny so well.

iamawoman · 05/02/2018 15:05

#indiawillybpeaktransnarcissim

CecilyNeville · 05/02/2018 15:05

Doe anyone know whether there is any way of getting hold of the Nick Ferrari bit? I can't see a play back function on LBC.

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 15:02

I'm normally a fan of James O'Brien...listen a lot....but he has totally drunk all the fucking Kool Aid on this issue.

I was so angry at him for shutting down debate and dismissing womens concerns.

Another one who is literally fucking horrified and confused to find myself alligned in agreement with people like Nick Ferrari and Piers Morgan. Grin

Will watch/listen to these later when I have wine.....otherwise I think my head might just literally explode in fury.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 05/02/2018 14:58

I hate that we're so on the back foot. Why can't Karen say 'this isn't about you. It's about women caring for women - most of whom have been abused by men - but all of whom are women, lesbian or not. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU'

GetDownDog · 05/02/2018 14:56

Well, poor old men, don't they have a hard time of it.
And harmless little transwomen, as long as you don't count those amongst them who are in prison for sex crimes, or who troll Twitter wanting to hunt down terfs and kill them or have them suck their lady dicks.
Yep, poor old harmless men. Hmm

OnTheList · 05/02/2018 14:47

Feels so odd agreeing with Piers on something. India, as usual came across horribly.

She got an ' I am a womaaaaan' into it too I see Grin

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 05/02/2018 14:44

Great. Now I agree with Piers Morgan

It's like some kind of horrible dream isn't it Shock

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 05/02/2018 14:35

Thanks Beatrice

OMG, India is horrible! No sympathy whatsoever for victims of abuse, talks over Karen, has 'sympathy' for men this year - WTAF, in this context, WTAF?

Peaktrans peaktrans

Going to put this in a separate thread

BeatriceJoanna · 05/02/2018 14:30

I know Certain.

The other day I retweeted a Tory MP - and it was not for the purposes of holding them up to mockery. Shock

OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 05/02/2018 14:28

India actually said to Karen "I've looked at your website. I feel very sorry for men" Talk about missing the point...

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 05/02/2018 14:21

Great. Now I agree with Piers Morgan.

BeatriceJoanna · 05/02/2018 14:02
AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 05/02/2018 13:53

Can you link Beatrice, I can't find it. Thanks

BeatriceJoanna · 05/02/2018 13:50

Just caught up with the GMB interview, it made me so angry.

India Willoughby derailing, talking over Karen Ingala Smith and just generally being sneery and dismissive. It doesn't matter what surgery they have or which hormones they take nothing removes deeply ingrained male privilege, does it?

GoodyMog · 05/02/2018 11:16

India coming out with "not all men" while accusing Karen Ingala-Smith of being "one track" due to her work on violence against women. Which doesn't at all sound exactly like every other misogynist MRA out there.

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