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Lots of feminists on radio/TV today re Women's Aid/Refuges

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BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 10:02

Karen ingala-Smith vs India "I'm a real woman" Willoughby on Good morning Britain (ITV)

Dr Nicola Williams vs Aimee "non-man of the Green Party" Chanellor on Nick Ferrari (LBC) - this was brilliant and well worth a listen, if you only pick one!!

Karen and India round two on Julia Hartley-Brewer (talk radio)

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DeleteOrDecay · 05/02/2018 18:18

I noticed during the GMB clip that when IW asked if they would be accepted into a WA shelter, the woman suggested IW would benefit more from a specialist shelter. IW's response? "But there aren't any"

If there aren't any specialist shelters for people like IW, then why aren't people like IW campaigning and setting up their own shelters? Why the need to barge in on women's shelters where you clearly won't be welcomed?

Probably because that requires effort. Much easier to appropriate something than to do it off your own back.

OvaHere · 05/02/2018 18:18

India dismisses male violence on the same day this is reported Angry

Massive Trigger Warning. Do not click if reading about this will trigger ptsd.

twitter.com/Bigoldsupermoon/status/960552274337681411

shouldbedoingmyhomework · 05/02/2018 18:11

Nothing useful to say but I'm so mad at the NAMALT when talking about women's refuges, women murdered by men, or the past year of news on sexual assault/harassment.
And such fucking arrogance.
I have genuinely felt confused over this issue, like I wasn't being compassionate. Life as a woman is headfuckery. We're meant to deny reality, live with shit.

TheChampagneGalop · 05/02/2018 18:08

Yes Kittens we mustn't talk about actual male violence against women - it makes men look bad!! Boohoooo!!
I am so mad right now Angry
Right after that trans-identifying man scolded Rose McGowan for talking about the same topic...

AngryAttackKittens · 05/02/2018 18:04

And remember, IW managed to look at the website, Counting dead women and..... feel sorry for men! There's only one kind of person who can look at that website and feel sorry for men .........

The worst thing about men's violence towards women is that it makes men look bad, which upsets them. Core misogynistic ratbag belief since forever.

OvaHere · 05/02/2018 18:03

On the bright side hopefully India will have been peak transing the nation for the second time this year.

Counting Dead Women = Poor men

Disgusting Angry

TheChampagneGalop · 05/02/2018 17:57

"I read your website counting all the women men have murdered, it made me feel sorry for men"

PEAK. BLOODY. TRANS

BeatriceJoanna · 05/02/2018 17:42

All that masculine aggression and yet he'd have you believe that he's "A REAL WOMAN".
Try showing a bit of concern for terrified, traumatised women then, mate.

Dear god, is anyone else in an almost permanent state of rage these days. I mean, even Thatcher didn't wind me up as much or as often as these TRAs.

ExFunFeminist · 05/02/2018 17:09

This is what IW said to KIS ‘’with the greatest respect I visited your website and you have a list of crimes committed by men, and there’s a great demonization, I feel really sorry for guys this year, I think they’ve had it really tough, (raises voice over KIS who tries to respond) and today there will be more acts of violence by your definition of a woman than the transgender population, we are 1% of the world’s population, the actual percentage that will end up working in a women’s refuge in this capacity is minuscule, it is being blown out of all proportion and it’s just a ginormous smear’’

IW is unbelievable, actually suggesting women are the more violent group when asked to be on a panel to discuss women's refuges, and men are getting a hard time.

DearSergio · 05/02/2018 17:03

I was literally screaming at my tv when IW waffled on about the poor men in a interview about women in refuges. Way to miss the fricking point! And then to say that if a vulnerable woman was traumatised by a transwoman in a shelter, the transwoman would " back off " Hmm didn't he scream " Iam a real woman " in an 80 yr old lesbians face on CBB.... wish someone on the panel had brought up Danielle Muscato, who to the best of my knowledge self identified his way into a woman's shelter and then tweeted we could suck his dick if we didn't like it on international women's day Angry

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 17:02

*upside down world

There is no fucking upside to this atm.

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 17:01

LaContessa I know!

I feel somehow unclean.

It's a mad fucking upside world where I agree with Piers Morgan and my fellow lefties think I'm a bigot.

I said this on another thread but....

Seriously Charlie Brooker I don't like this Black Mirror episode........you can stop now.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 05/02/2018 16:58

I will never call him "she"

Sorry about that. I wrote it unthinkingly and then hesitated given the context and then left it because the irony of the whole situation kind of drives it home.

I'm with you though

BiologyMatters · 05/02/2018 16:56

IW is a raging mysoginist.

LaContessaDiPlump · 05/02/2018 16:55

I don't WANT to agree with Piers Morgan!!

BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 16:53

(But obv this is not the best quality)

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BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 16:52

(I spent the morning live videoing radio shows on my iPad, with my phone to Facebook Grin )

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LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 16:49

AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH

Fucking cunting wankstains

MountainsofMars · 05/02/2018 16:48

Karen Ingala Smith is AMAYZING I follow her blog and on Twitter - It's hard going sometimes, and I can't imagine the emotional cost to her.

But she is heroic in naming and giving respectful accounts of the lives of the 2 to 3 women murdered by men each week. She names the women and writes about them as full human beings, not just as victims.

It's important work.

BeyondWitchbitchterf · 05/02/2018 16:48

LBC podcast repeats are subscription only, but I’m sure someone is recording it.

I can do it just with my phone if no one more tech savvy comes along Grin

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LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 16:47

BeyondWitch Thanks for that stat.

Interesting that our words and questions are "literal violence" againt TIMs but the actual real violent murder of a woman by one of their own is never mentioned.

No she explicitly said she was sorry for men because they were being 'demonised

How much more misogynistic can you fucking get than that attitude???

I am so so so fucking angry at that.
HOW FUCKING DARE HE TURN THE MANY VIOLENT DEATHS OF WOMEN INTO A POOR MENZ THING!!

And yeah....I will never call him "she" while he has the fucking audacity to minimize and dismiss the very real violence against the sex ge professes to want to fucking be.

If you really identify with women IDENTIFY WITH OUR FUCKING OPPRESSION

I am literally boiling with fucking blinding, white hot fury.

OnTheList · 05/02/2018 16:43

Have tried searching but cannot find anything to do with todays show. I am not expecting others to google for me, google seems to show nothing. Just..someone may have a link already. I am not lazy, honest Blush

OnTheList · 05/02/2018 16:43

Is the Nick Ferrari one online do you know?

Thehairthebod · 05/02/2018 16:36

No she explicitly said she was sorry for men because they were being 'demonised'

Ah, I see. Wowzers, I gave IW the benefit of the doubt there didn't I?!

Counting Dead Women basically documents the women murdered by men in the UK.

So what IW is saying is that women shouldn't ever talk about the violence against them by men, even if its just yo document the facts, because it 'demonises' men.

Woah. Fuck.

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