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Tamsin sutherland

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iamawoman · 04/02/2018 20:00

countrysquire.co.uk/2017/10/28/transinister/

Interesting and thoughtful article

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 05/02/2018 18:04

Another "Country Squire" virgin here - that was a remarkably good read, I am really surprised (at country squire, not Tamsin)

AngryAttackKittens · 05/02/2018 17:59

Didn't bother to read them, as I'm neither a squire nor particularly interested in the country.

GoodyMog · 05/02/2018 17:55

It's an odd time, when people talking sense have to do so in obscure publications (no offense to the fine readers of Country Squire intended, it just seems a bit niche)

I'm not sure I'd say "fine readers" given some of the other articles tbh

AngryAttackKittens · 05/02/2018 17:52

It's tragicomic that we've reached a point where a person talking common sense is a shocking turn of events. Trans women are male, you say? And that's why the word "trans" is in there? Shock

It's an odd time, when people talking sense have to do so in obscure publications (no offense to the fine readers of Country Squire intended, it just seems a bit niche) but you can't state facts in The Guardian.

WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/02/2018 17:46

I'm not Tamsin! But I've emailed her and told her that you're all agreeing with her.
:)

I don't know if Tamsin will join the thread, but I've given her a heads up.

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SleepFreeZone · 05/02/2018 17:08

Tamsin should speaking sense because she isn’t being influenced by all the crazy younguns. She’s pensionable age from the photo and has basically seen and heard it all. We need to hear some mature voices I think when things get hysterical.

IAmSpartaCis · 05/02/2018 16:47

Rainbow Reich

I am STEALING that! 👌😏

Melamin · 05/02/2018 16:43

The battle lines, politically-speaking, appear to be the sanity of those that understand we fall outside of the norm, and merely seek societal empathy for the accident of our birth, versus those that seem keen to use the power of their ability to CHOOSE to ‘identify’ as transgender as a societal cosh with which they can beat society into a different shape

I liked this bit.

NaturalWoman · 05/02/2018 16:34

In that case, Whats, thank you, Tamsin Smile

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 16:28

Thank you for putting your head over the parapet.

Thank you for being honest.

"I believe in chromosomes" in that one phrase you nailed it, totally and utterly nailed it and it was beautiful in it's simplicity.

WhatsGoingOnEh · 05/02/2018 16:22

I know Tamsin in real life. I'll point her in the direction of this thread.

Gacapa · 05/02/2018 16:20

Of course Tamsin may be a mumsnetter.

Gacapa · 05/02/2018 16:19

I recognised the words from here too. One has directly lifted from the other. No idea which.

iamawoman · 05/02/2018 16:14

We are all living in an episode of black mirror when universities are promoting tolerance and diversity but only to born men, whilst no platforming prominent feminists and anyone that doesnt use correct pronouns - i mean i have had to.put up with 30 years of being asked if i am a mrs / miss /ms!! Otherwise known as do i belong to a man or not!

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NaturalWoman · 05/02/2018 15:59

Completelely agree, Lana

LanaKanesTerfyVagina · 05/02/2018 15:58

Interesting article.

As an aside.....it's doing my head in that I seem to be agreeing with articles in a magazine that holds diametrically opposite views to me in every other respect.

They have a Countryside Alliance ad on there...in my activist days I had actual fights with their members (anti hunt protests)
They stand for everything I hate in that mag....snobbery, country squires, landed gentry, hunting etc etc

Yet here I am reading an article and nodding along.

I am literally living in a Black Mirror episode and I wish Brooker would write me the fuck out of it.

Melamin · 05/02/2018 15:49

What an eclectic collection of articles. It is interesting to see what people who have chosen green fields like to read. In 'about', it says CSM has existed since Nov 2016.

NaturalWoman · 05/02/2018 15:37

I recognised some of that from threads on here. Word for word.

Me too.

motmot · 05/02/2018 09:31

Maybe T is a mumsnetter!

motmot · 05/02/2018 09:29

I recognised some of that from threads on here. Word for word.

noraclavicle · 04/02/2018 23:35

Perhaps so, but it’s the analysis of the political/social situation we find ourselves in at the present - from the viewpoint of a trans woman - rather than the medium or the shortcomings of the writing style that’s of interest here.

newtlover · 04/02/2018 22:42

sorry, the appalling writing still suggests a 1st year undergraduate project to me. Of course they would create content that had some basis in the real world. Much easier these days to do this sort of thing. I remember when you would have to actually print real stuff on paper with ink and then figure out how to get into people's hands. Now you can just post a link on a well used website.

Ereshkigal · 04/02/2018 21:11

Infamous T is definitely real.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 04/02/2018 21:01

Even better Smile

noraclavicle · 04/02/2018 20:33

Real enough according to this