Can I join you? The BBC made me peak!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46142226

BBC article about Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s recent fall .. in the final para they can’t even get sex and gender right when it’s spelt out for them in the name of a film!

‘She [RBG] is the subject of both a recent documentary, RBG, and a forthcoming feature film, On the Basis of Sex, in which she is played by actress Felicity Jones. The feature film is about a landmark Supreme Court case in which Ms Ginsburg argued for fathers' rights and against gender discrimination.’

What do the BBC think gender discrimination is??

Will watch that video if I can take the stress. My DDs think I’m transphobic and obsessed. DH has peaked though, over the refuge nonsense in the paper today.

Whichever one you're offering, Hawkeye

Old proper Toblerones or the new ones with all the chocolate missing?

By the sigil of the Toblerone shall ye know us!

Maresedotes yes! I wish my 18 YO DD would read some of this. She's said she thinks I'm being transphobic because I'm on the same page as the rest of you 'now'

Ugh. Just watched it - will complain.

I will ask them to do a companion piece entitled "What Defines You As A Man?" and to make sure that the majority of the people interviewed are not male.

And then another piece entitled "What Defines You As A Black Man?" and ensure that the majority of the people talking about it are neither black nor men.

My dd is blindly accepting of letting anyone be whoever they want to be.

When I talk of the risks to women she just says 'You always bring that up. Let's just agree to disagree'.

It's become ingrained in her culture already and being 21 she doesn't have the wisdom to see beyond tolerance, inclusive and acceptance which is the young people are raised these days.

I too until recently had stayed out of the debate. I reached peak trans a couple of weeks back. I fear for my daughter’s future.

Ohyesihavepeaked
why did they interview a trans man? By the trans ideology that so many follow blindly, a trans man is a man. So why were they included in a video about who or what defines you as a woman. He's a man right? No? Yes? How can such muddled thinking be accepted by so many? It makes NO sense.

I didnt even think about that. I guess I dont see trans men as men.

Where the power & money lies shows you how much the establishment really believe women can become men i.e. not at all.

The fact that a TIF with a GRC can still not inherit a title etc because the laws on primogeniture were exempt or become a priest, tells you all you need to know about that...

The thing that made me first sit up and take notice was a thread on here about the trans agenda and its implications for girls on the autistic spectrum.

As a child I wanted to be a boy. As a teenager I felt more affiliation with boys - we had more in common, more similar interests, more we could talk about. I struggled with small talk with girls because I wasn't into fashion, make-up, celebrity crushes. Turns out I was on the spectrum but I didn't know at the time (or for many years afterwards) and that is quite typical for girls with ASD. In today's climate I'd probably be pushed to labelling myself trans. I may have opted for drug therapy. And I wouldn't have had the chance to grow up to be the person I am - a woman, with some non-gender-typical (if that's the word) interests. And I probably wouldn't have my DC who I adore because the medication could have made sterile. It's chilling.

Oh it's very one sided and incomplete.

There's been a few threads on this this morning; I posted this on the first I saw (nativitydiaper's)

It didn't mention prisons I noticed. So someone with a penis could be in a prison. Someone who has committed sex offences, as per the recent case.

It was a black and white argument. At least whoever the TW was said they didn't feel it was appropriate to call women bigots for wanting to talk about this, but there was really only Linda speaking for the women and no younger women talking about it. This gives the unconscious feeling it's out of date to think GRA is wrong.

It didn't include any TiMs who felt it was wrong.

This is the complaints link www.bbc.co.uk/complaints.

BBC do pay a lot of attention to public feedback, it’s in their governance, always worth getting in touch with them.

BBC comments form for registering your views

ssl.bbc.co.uk/faqs/forms?contact=feedback

I've just written a complaint to the BBC about that article. I'm not expecting it to make any difference.

Welcome back, op.

I agree. Datun is fabulous.

And it is thanks to MN that I have a much better understanding of feminism and trans issues. Thank you, everyone at MN, for your helpful contributions!

Thinking about it I probably peak every day, it just never seems to stop.

I think my original one was when the Hollywood actress Martha Plimpton was organising an event for reproductive rights called Night Of A Thousand Vaginas and was absolutely leathered by TAs/SJW for being "cissexist and bioreductionist".

I remember that I just couldn't get my head around this at all - women were not to talk about actual things that actually affected them because it was offensive, especially in a country where women's reproductive rights were and still are under seige.

It just blew my mind that something so important that affected so many women was to be rubbished and cast aside because of feelz.

I think that happened in 2014 and it makes me want to weep that it's got so much worse since then.

The only light I see is that more women seem to be peaking at a faster rate, so welcome all and pay it foward - peak trans a friend today!

I find myself increasingly thinking of this sketch in the wake of so much ridiculous reporting and trampling over women's rights and lives.

Yes, Fairenuff, I agree.

No-one talked about what they felt defines them as a woman (although one trans man seemed to touch on the question at the end). It was just about who defines them - feel quite miffed by such a disingenuous and clickbaity title on the BBC.

It might be grasping at straws, but I too wonder if the Beeb are feigning credulousness in order to peak trans people by stealth.

It seems utterly incredible that so many intelligent people could be failing to apply any critical thinking whatsoever.

Nice though that thought is Natural, I think it's more likely they've downed the Kool-Aid.