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Bravo Janice Turner!

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NotALabourMemberImAfraidLads · 03/02/2018 00:21

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-s-purge-of-the-trans-rights-heretics-p32khgn36

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AngryAttackKittens · 03/02/2018 10:35

I still don't believe in fairies, no matter how dramatically they weep about my lack of belief literally killing them.

Floisme · 03/02/2018 10:33

Reading that article has really cheered me up: spot on with the religious dogma and so well written. Great integrity too. And courage. Thank you.

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OldBlueStitches · 03/02/2018 10:24

Absolutely excellent article. Almost going to subscribe based on that alone.

I want to share that article with friends.

shehimthey · 03/02/2018 10:24

Brilliant article. Am going to show it to my 14 yr old DS who just had an RME lesson where a teacher delivered the gems of ‘there can be a male vagina and a female penis’. His class dissolved into laughter at this and fortunately my DS has had enough conversations with me on this subject to see it for what it was. I’m in Scotland and had warned him he might be hearing such things. Janice needs to go on something like Loose Women to put this cool, measured thinking right out there into the mainstream.

Freshlylaidterf · 03/02/2018 10:23

Excellent article

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whitehandledkitchenknife · 03/02/2018 10:22

Brava.Star Brava.Star BravaStar.

What a magnificent piece of writing to get up to on a Saturday morning. Is there a way of making the transcript of the article a sticky note somewhere so that it's clarity is not lost in the tunnels of threads?
I too had a Datun/Janice Turner in the same room thought as I read it.
I'm off to get a hard copy for posterity.

MacaroonMama · 03/02/2018 10:20

Fab. That last line is a bit of an 'I'm Spartacus' moment. She is very brave.

Popchyk · 03/02/2018 10:11

Brilliantly done.

Stated all of the issues really well.

I think it is worth mentioning that lots of people on mumsnet and people in the Labour party have helped to force this issue right into the light. Into the mainstream media which is exactly where it needs to be.

Well done to everyone. And to Janice Turner of course.

ChattyLion · 03/02/2018 10:06

Janice Turner is so brilliant. She’s been writing prochoice stuff in the Times for years and now she is sticking her neck out on this issue. Star what an excellent article.

AnachronisticCorpse · 03/02/2018 09:58

This is great. She’s done a really good job here of explaining exactly why none of it makes sense. Im living in hope that the rest of the MSM is going to catch up.

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Somerville · 03/02/2018 09:55

Incredibly well written article, expressing the reality of the issue despite its complexity.

I'm already subscribed to the Times, but must remember to email to tell them why I continue to pay for it.

Dozer · 03/02/2018 09:51

If only the Times was as good on womens issues more generally.

LaContessaDiPlump · 03/02/2018 09:48

That is a fantastic article - very well done Janice!

athingthateveryoneneeds · 03/02/2018 09:17

I've subscribed.

Badgerthebodger · 03/02/2018 09:06

Really fantastic. I got a subscription entirely due to Janice’s articles and have cancelled my Guardian membership and direct debit as it has become unreadable

wrappedupinmyselflikeaspool · 03/02/2018 09:04

Long time Guardian reader here. I’ve had a subscription to the Times for about 6 months to read Janice Turner articles but found they have a lot of great articles in other subjects too. Some I don’t agree with but that’s also true of the Guardian.

ALittleBitOfButter · 03/02/2018 09:04

Brilliant article Janice.

ALittleBitOfButter · 03/02/2018 09:04

*transgressors

ALittleBitOfButter · 03/02/2018 09:03

In Australia: Criticising trans ideology was the only way the no lobby could make their opposition to same sex marriage palatable for the general population. I believe they actually reduced the yes vote considerably by exposing the trans nuttery in schools. They never actually criticised gay marriage itself, just the gender stuff. So by hitching themselves to T, LGB faced greater prejudice.
Of course the LGB lobby has been hijacked by transactivists and LG spokespeople fell over themselves to mention trans victimhood at every point. Of course this wasn't enough: one TIM wrote an article in the Guardian complaining that trans wasn't being centred in the same sex marriage debate.
So transideology has seeped through the cracks. All mother and baby forums in the country shut down any raising of issues by the babywearing army who've been fully indoctrinated into pseudointersectionality, identity politics and "callout" punishments for tramsgressors.

MorrisZapp · 03/02/2018 09:02

Superb. I feel safer and stronger knowing that intelligent people can see the insanity.

Natsku · 03/02/2018 08:56

Bloody good article! Another one that is considering getting a subscription now.

Anlaf · 03/02/2018 08:55

wish there had been a way to tell them why I was doing so.

You can email them- I think they get a lot of correspondence when there is a trans piece.
[email protected]

Or a letter to the editor:
[email protected]

It's such a good piece.

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