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Bravo Janice Turner!

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NotALabourMemberImAfraidLads · 03/02/2018 00:21

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/comment/labour-s-purge-of-the-trans-rights-heretics-p32khgn36

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ICJump · 03/02/2018 07:51

LadyCassandra I’m an Aussie too. I think the situation is probably a bit worse as gender is already protected under the federal sex discrimination act. I’m not sure if it’s been challenged yet as a competing right.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 03/02/2018 07:51

I think I may have to get a subscription to The Times. That's a really good article.

Patodp · 03/02/2018 07:43

Market - mark.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 03/02/2018 07:43

Janice Turner is the reason I subscribe to the Times.

Patodp · 03/02/2018 07:42

It's a perfect term for the ideology, because everything about it reflects religious extremism. The repeated use of non-factual mantras and a requirement for blind faith to believe in it all, the conservatism, the misogyny - I can't think of any religion that is not deeply misogynistic, the way followers cry "heresy" and "Blasphemy" at non-believers and the extreme tactics used to shut them down. ..
The religion of the self, the cult of the personality, is taking over.

I notice she doesn't mention LM. I assume deliberately.

Great stuff. The Times is really on the market with this one and I'll def pay the £1 a month for 3.

DearSergio · 03/02/2018 07:41

Fantastic article, my dad - who is an old school lefty, called me a bigot some months back for my gender critical views - has a Times subscription. I hope he reads this because it's everything I wanted to say but wasn't eloquent enough to achieve. Thankyou Janice!

seXXyLady · 03/02/2018 07:39

Is Tarzan actually a gorilla then? He was actually raised as one and lived as one all his life. He is more a gorilla than these men are women.

DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 03/02/2018 07:38

Wonderful article which she will be abused for. takes courage to stand up for women and girls, Janice, we salute you! Flowers

SusanBunch · 03/02/2018 07:36

Excellent article

Gruach · 03/02/2018 07:25

Excellent.

(Now that the Guardian online is unreadable I too am re-assessing my default news source. Would have liked to see this article in the FT.)

boldlygoingsomewhere · 03/02/2018 07:12

Brilliant article - really gets to the heart of it.

Tanaqui · 03/02/2018 06:37

She has been consistently good on this topic- and is one of the reasons I often buy a paper copy of The Times. I wish it was easier to share!

CapnHaddock · 03/02/2018 06:33

Brilliant Janice. Thank you

FurryGiraffe · 03/02/2018 06:30

Oh, thank you Janice Turner. Superb stuff.

Anlaf · 03/02/2018 06:15

I think you need to have an apple device to do sharetokens. Anyway, off to read Janice now!

AngryAttackKittens · 03/02/2018 02:40

She deserves an award for her service to womankind over the past few months.

NotEntirelyWhelmed · 03/02/2018 02:07

LadyCassandra the Australian equivalent is Essential Kids, but they’re not massively developed on the trans questioning front yet. Gender critical people from EK tend to wash up here as lurkers.

LongCoat · 03/02/2018 01:32

Wow!

GretchenFranklin · 03/02/2018 01:24

Bravo indeed. Well said Janice.

Datun · 03/02/2018 01:24

Excellent. Nailed it.

RaininSummer · 03/02/2018 01:14

Wonderful. Thank you Janice.

CanIBuffalo · 03/02/2018 01:10

Well done Janice. Thank you.

LadyCassandra · 03/02/2018 01:05

I've been lurking on these threads with interest and horror. This article is brilliant and exactly what should be reported.
I'm in Australia where as far as I know (and I don't have an AU equivalent of MN to go by) this issue isn't quite as advanced as it is in the UK. Probably the one time as a feminist that I'm happy the country is run by a conservative white male government.

boatyardblues · 03/02/2018 01:02

She managed to get all the salient points and some illustrative cases into a remarkably tidy wordcount.

glitterbiscuits · 03/02/2018 01:00

I wish I had written that.