Rose McGowan video

And it's OK to be angry, confused, sad, whatever else it is that Rose happens to feel at any given moment. Women are allowed to be human.

I hope she reads this board

So do I.

A shout out to Rose McGowan.

The largest forum on the UK (mostly) populated by women are behind you.

We get it. All of it.

She was magnificent. I’m a rape survivor who is often out in public talking about it. “Step the fuck back” indeed.

For those who say she was too angry. I don’t think you can be too angry. What did she do? She didn’t hit anyone. She stood up for herself. I imagine she is exhausted from talking about it. I have to keep it to a minimum so it doesn’t get too much for me. Good for Rose, more power to her. Anyone who doesn’t like what she has to say has the choice to not go and hear it, or to sit the F down and step the F back.

I hope she reads this board

So her appearance at another venue has been cancelled because of her public behaviour?

THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!

There's a photo of the Gay Men's Chorus in San Francisco where you can see the surviving members, post AIDS crisis. The men in white are the survivors. 7 of them.

sdgln.com/causes/2017/11/28/picture-1993-reminds-people-loss-life-due-aids

How dare this spiteful, selfish, predatory heterosexual man attempt to appropriate a tragedy that he'd have sailed through totally unscathed?

*on

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/rose-mcgowan-transgender-woman-shouts-barnes-noble-book-event-a8191431.html

Jeez, this is being framed as RM shouting at a poor transgender woman.

In the video, that hideous bloke actually says It's like the AIDS crisis all over again. How utterly, utterly disgraceful. I'm old enough to remember the AIDS crisis in all its horrific detail. A friend of mine from those days died, FFS. We all took turns in sitting with him so that his parents could look after him and still hold down their jobs. How dare he?

Why am I not surprised to find he's a paedo to boot?

She's had 2 decades of this shit from men. Of course she's fucking angry.

Also misogyny leads to a lot of people perceiving any sign of anger from a woman as incredibly aggressive, whereas the same level of anger from a man would be unremarkable. Women aren't supposed to get angry, it's a violation of the "be everyone's mummy" social contract that we were enrolled in without our consent at birth.

YY. People are so shocked by her anger. I'd be fucking angry too. It was righteous anger.

How sad for him that he found bullying a rape victim triggering.

From the dreadful Katelyn Burns article:

KB Did you go to the event with the intent of confronting her on her transphobia or was it more spur of the moment? What was going through your mind when you first spoke?

AD I've done this before with Bernie Sanders.rs.*_ This was planned. But only because I happened to be canvassing with Working Families Party in front of the same Barnes & Noble earlier that day. It felt like a sign. What she said has been gnawing at me for months. And I was really scared. I almost backed down. It is only my trauma and bipolar that lets me feel a level of emotion I cannot ignore. I knew the audience was going to turn against me, too.^

Also misogyny leads to a lot of people perceiving any sign of anger from a woman as incredibly aggressive, whereas the same level of anger from a man would be unremarkable. Women aren't supposed to get angry, it's a violation of the "be everyone's mummy" social contract that we were enrolled in without our consent at birth.

vesuvia thanks for those stats. I was going to ask if anyone had any.
Can someone post them on twitter to illustrate the ridiculousness of those claims.
I was totally clueless until I looked into it all and now I'm bloody furious/scared and wondering what my two daughters have to face.
The thing is, most people are not bigots and would not discriminate against trans and be very accepting but they have created a problem which was barely there

I'm at the point where I feel like if they're going to label us as witches anyway we might as well respond to the appearance of dudes like the one who verbally attacked McGowan in spaces where they're clearly there to cause trouble with "by the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes".

They probably have seen the video, but everyone is being told what to say and what to think, how to posture themselves so as to appear to be in the right side. It's fucked.

Great article by Meghan Murphy which covers everything.

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/02/02/trans-identified-male-verbally-attacks-rose-mcgowan-barnes-noble-talk/

I'm so glad this is being talked about here, the thin sliver of sanity in amongst all the madness. Dh just showed me Rose's feed on twitter, and I could feel my blood pressure rising reading the abuse she is getting for this and the way the story is being spun in the media.

Like most TRAs his agenda was "all eyes on me, I'm the only one who matters, and women who refuse to acknowledge that should be punished".

Also as a predator McGowan must be particularly threatening to him, since she's helped a lot of other women to come forward by doing so herself. Any man going after her has skeletons in his closet.

One can't help but wonder if this was orchestrated in some way - did that TIM have an agenda, aside from the obvious desire to shout and abuse her?

He went there deliberately to target her for her comments that transwomen are transwomen. It was his idea of activism. He boasted about it on his Patreon page.

It's funny isn't it, feminists have to be purer than pure in the eyes of the handmaidens or their views are disregarded - even when they are saying the same thing as the handmaidens.

But TA's can be rapists and paedophiles but still get the support if they happen to be parroting the accepted lines.

Seems to operate a lot like male privilege...

I don't see how they can...

Hmm, i wonder if they have actually seen the video cake?

One can't help but wonder if this was orchestrated in some way - did that TIM have an agenda, aside from the obvious desire to shout and abuse her?