Rose McGowan video

Ffs! My family marched for refugees and for Palestine and yet they are neither. Regardless of what your own identity tells you about yourself, did none of you have a mother? Or am I supposed to believe in an immaculate conception now too? *

*is what I would like to say more publicly if only I had larger ovaries

“You’ve never once asked me what it was like to grow up as a woman, what it’s like to get a period” — This is cis-centred language that suggests getting a period is essential to the experience of living as a woman, which therefore suggests that trans women are not women

Erm... but transwomen aren't women. That's the whole point. Well done for finally getting there...

I'm a middle aged woman who's being radicalised online
Who'd have thought.

The TIMs really, really hate women.

“You’ve never once asked me what it was like to grow up as a woman, what it’s like to get a period” — This is cis-centred language that suggests getting a period is essential to the experience of living as a woman, which therefore suggests that trans women are not women. This kind of biological essentialism is textbook TERFism.

Yes, being female is an essential requirement in order to be a woman. This is reality-centered language that suggests that you should pull your head out of your ass and consider that the vast majority of humans on Earth think that you're talking complete fucking nonsense.

State of this

medium.com/@ashleyjaycooper/an-open-letter-to-rose-mcgowan-247d4bf4e28d

Picture of McGowan - sharp, clear, in focus.

Picture of TIM - Blurry, out of focus, attempted MySpace angle.

And yet you can still tell at a glance which one was the woman. But in the event that you had terrible eyesight and had lost your glasses all doubt would be removed the moment the TIM opened his mouth and started vomiting entitlement all over the place.

It wasn't a breakdown, it was self defence ffs!

are all transactivists beyond criticism?

Just TIMs, I reckon. If Rose were a TIF, she'd be getting the same shit and accusations of hysteria and meltdown.

That tweet has 1400 likes despite the truth now coming out about the history of this attacker, who shouted "white feminist" at Rose while being an underprivileged white male...are all transactivists beyond criticism?

I DON'T FUCKING BELIEVE THIS

twitter.com/womensmarch/status/959560253850509315

God really London? Are they?

That is disgusting.

I honestly do believe the mask has slipped now, men are using the trans movement to channel their loathing of women, and a lot of women are showing how desperate they are for male approval by going along with it.

The Women's March sympathising with him over her. Sums up the crazy world of 2018 I think

It's these fuckers demanding to be centred in anything that women do. And anything any single woman does. She has no right to stand up there and talk about the sexual assault women experience, she should be talking about males who say they are women. Fucking beggars belief.

But she didn't deny his chosen identity

She simply chose to talk about her own experiences and not someone else's.

What effing pain has Rose McGowan caused anyone? As far as I can tell she didn't deny anyone's "identity", she referred to the aggressive "activist" as "sister" did she not?

The official "Women's March" Facebook page has posted a link to the them.us article with the comment "Please read this interview with the activist who engaged Rose McGowan last night. Transphobia and denying trans women's identities is never okay. The pain we feel does not excuse the pain we cause others."

The comments show a whole lot of peaking going on.

She is fucking WONDERFUL!

Just ordered her book too.

Go Rose!

Yes. I think that the lack of focus on his behaviour is the most telling in all of it. It wasn't exactly presented as a 'cat foght', was it? As it would have been if Rose had been arguing with a woman; where both of their behaviours would have been called into question.

The more they argue against women, the more they reveal themselves to be the misigynistic, abusive men they are.

More and more people are reaching peak trans. The number of people posting on mn who are here because they've finally got it is increasing.

Give them enough rope and they will indeed hang themselves. There are going to be some very foolish looking high profile people when this all finally falls apart.

Let's just hope that happens before they have done irreversible damage.

That article makes no mention of the man's breakdown does it. Rose was far more controlled than him.

Exactly. Proving they see him as a man, who is allowed to show rage. Any woman coming out with the shit he was bellowing would be hysterical/irrational/unhinged/aggressive/a bitch etc.

Also having taken a quick glance at Rose McGowan's book on Amazon pretty sure I'll be reading that.

Ahem. Apologies if this has already been posted but it seems kinda relevant:

gendertrender.wordpress.com/2018/02/02/transwoman-who-heckled-rose-mcgowan-is-a-known-sexual-predator-claim-women/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

In a way that's giving him more credit than he deserves, though - that confrontation was engineered to make a point, and any oh poor me commentary after the fact is lies. He got exactly what he was looking for.

That article makes no mention of the man's breakdown does it. Rose was far more controlled than him.

I've never seen the word "breakdown" being used to describe a man. I think it's a heavily gendered term.

Well I've just commented on the Independent's fb article about this - the first time I've stuck my head above the parapet.

That article makes no mention of the man's breakdown does it. Rose was far more controlled than him.