Rose McGowan video

The official "Women's March" Facebook page has posted a link to the them.us article with the comment "Please read this interview with the activist who engaged Rose McGowan last night. Transphobia and denying trans women's identities is never okay. The pain we feel does not excuse the pain we cause others."

It's on their TWitter feed, too. I have just responded asking them if they realise that Ms McGowan was one of the people whose speaking out started #MeToo movement & that the person who abused her was an alleged sexual predator.

Now I await the barrage of "Die TERF die" style Tweets that are customary when one says something like that on Twitter.

White middle class women have to be shamed into silence because we are the only demographic of women that has any social, economic and political power (and we don't have that much in comparison to men).

It is classic abuser tactics to segregate victims from those that could help them (friends and family). In this case the tactic is to dissuade women from different socioeconomic classes from organising together by tainting those with the ability (time, resources etc) to do the structural analysis as being purely self serving.

It's bullshit.

I would say that it's quite the opposite, the people closest to men prone to fits of irrational rage are the ones who're in the most danger. Trying to befriend them is the last way to stay safe.

Underestimating actual women will be the downfall of the TRAs and their apologists.

I for one can't wait for it to happen.

I'm continually shocked by just how many handmaidens there are, tbh. Do they think these men will protect them? Do they think it's cool? Do they just not understand? Have they just internalised the misogyny?

Why aren't they all questioning it? They are women; they have mothers, friends, daughters, sisters...

Full PDF of original essay.

www.annelawrence.com/shame_&_narcissistic_rage.pdf

genderapostates.com/transwomen-and-narcissistic-rage/

"The thing is - it's not actually about being a woman, is it? It's about being a Very Special Victim (a woman-hating trans identified male)"

Completely agree with this CAAKE. It's a bizarre sort of victim hood wrapped up in the belief that they have the right to colonise women. Fuck that shit.

Transphobic literally does mean 'I don't like that'. I was accused very publically of being 'transphobic' for refusing to break the long established rules of a group for a TRA and allow them to spam the rest of the group with TRA propaganda. He'd had a lot of support from the group and been made very welcome. Gently persisting that no, he needed to abide by the rules like everyone else was a 'ban on positive trans messaging' (wtaf) and there was one heck of a tantrum involving several hand maidens acting as textbook flying monkeys.

It was the first of many peak trans moments.

Can you describe Angry?

Not to be a broken record but a lot of things about TRAs make more sense once you understand how narcissistic personality disorder works.

If you're a woman just get on and be a fucking woman like the rest of us.

Quite and when you hear a fellow woman talk about her experiences of rape, show that you are part of the 'sisterhood' and stand beside her in support rather than treat her like the enemy because she isn't talking about you and how bad it is for you.

If transwomen want women to accept them, then they need to start being nicer to us, you know, behave more like women rather than aggressive, misogynistic, bullying, predatory men.

After all, you catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar...

But then that is the problem. They don't want to be us; be like us; be one of us. They want to replace us. And that's just not cricket*.

• delete and replace with any acceptable stereotypically female activity.

Seems to mean "anything a trans person doesn't like".

I'm starting to think "oh why don't you just fuck OFF!" whenever another TIM pops up and says he's a victim of oppression by white cis women. Why's it ok to use white as an insult? I can't help being white any more than i can help being female, or a TIM can help being male.

On anothet note can anyone define transphobic for me?

I went down the rabbit hole reading about Katelyn Burns on kiwifarms last night 🙈

I think vajazzles are probably transmisogynophobic, Angry

Its funny how these TIM writers and activists (Andi, Katelyn and Ashley included) shout at us that they "are women", but they ALL feel it necessary to put "trans" in their bios and Twitter headers. If they aren't any different to other women then they should stop fucking bleating on about being trans at every damn opportunity. If you're a woman just get on and be a fucking woman like the rest of us.

The thing is - it's not actually about being a woman, is it? It's about being a Very Special Victim (a woman-hating trans identified male).

Axes. Please do not coat your sexes in glitter unless extreme exfoliation sounds like fun to you.

"Well, first you figure out what gender the other person identifies as, that's very important. Then you ask lots of vague but leading questions in the hopes that they'll mention something that will give you an indication whether or not they have the kind of gametes that you don't have, so you'll know if you can make babies or not. Absolutely do not ask about genitals! Asking about genitals very bad. Also zie can always get a uterus transplant if necessary."

FFS, it's like matchmaking among Pratchett's dwarves, except everyone has a blue undercut and the sxes are coated in glitter.

Ah well all this has sharpened my resolve to talk about periods etc a whole lot more. My poor kids

When DD recently asked about how babies were made, I was far more frank with her about male and female anatomy than I was with DS when we had a similar conversation a few years ago, mostly because it's so important that she knows biological fact and I can't guarantee that she will get that from school etc anymore

That them.us article / interview with Andi is giving me the rage sooooo much. They really think that they are at the bottom of the pile and we are happily skipping around, with our vaginas and stuff, trampling all over them, don't they?

Even 20 seconds googling shows that the claim that TIM are more likely to be raped and murdered than women is absolute bull shit. Even in places like South America, where the murder rates of TIM are much higher than the UK and the US, there are still more women being assaulted and killed in both actual and relative numbers.

It's just outright lies and it makes me mad.

"cis centred language" you what?! Women are still socialised not to even fucking talk about their periods!
Ah well all this has sharpened my resolve to talk about periods etc a whole lot more. My poor kids.

It's like they think that if they start from any premise, no matter how absurd, and just keep talking as if said premise was obviously correct then everyone will believe them.

"Many say that dolphins are not gerbils, but as we all know this is anti-aquatic centered language that falsely suggests that dolphins are not land based mammals. This is textbook FlipperIsm"

The TIMs really, really hate women.

Yes. Yes they do.

They hate us because being women is perhaps the one thing that every single one of us does better than every single one of them. But they've spent their whole lives being told that boys are better than girls; men are better than women and so they must be better at this too.

This will be a period of history (or herstory, if enough men decide to become women, I guess...) that is studied in the future about how it can all go so wrong...

Can anyone get the story about Andi's sexual offending into the mainstream press? Sorry to say that, although I'd love to share on FB, something from The Times or Independent would go down better and be believed more.

Andi was angry IMO because Rose was saying the right thing but very clearly thinks Andi is a man. The speech isn't important. TRAs want to control he inside of all our heads. 1984 is here with a vengeance.