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Rose McGowan video

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QueenShitSandwich · 02/02/2018 07:24

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Ereshkigal · 05/02/2018 14:58

That Jeff story is awful. Poor guy.

OlennasWimple · 05/02/2018 13:19

Because women don't have oestrogen naturally, we have titanium bones??

And is he defining a transwoman as someone who has taken medical steps? Because that's pretty bigotted of him not to recognise self-ID "my body is female because I am a woman and I don't need to do anything to change it" transwomen Wink

Worth flagging that Andi Dier is mentioned ias a TRA bully n the Jeff article posted by NotAWhacktivist, which dates from 2015...

mirime · 05/02/2018 13:16

Andi Dier has claimed that oestrogen makes transwomen's bones weaker than women's bones, so any attack on a tw could be fatal.

Hmm wtf. Really?

World really has gone completely crazy when somebody can say that and other people go along with it.

Riverside2 · 05/02/2018 13:02

sorry if I'm repeating something people have said ad nauseam

I am rewatching The Good Wife and some of what is happening on Twitter reminds me of different campaigns creating all these accounts to flood Twitter with a particular point of view.

I take some comfort from this because I think a lot of people feel as we do but simply won't post that point of view, plus there's an army out there taking over with the TRA perspective.

pisacake · 05/02/2018 12:58

Andi Dier has claimed that oestrogen makes transwomen's bones weaker than women's bones, so any attack on a tw could be fatal.

Riverside2 · 05/02/2018 12:36

thebewilderness "Since he is an abusive male and a sexual predator who preys on little girls I am guessing he was putting on a male dominance display"

as soon as I heard him yell "I've been followed home", that's what I thought.

The whole TRA thing is now a male dominance display and this is deliberately set up to derail a major player in the Wankstein problems.

Ereshkigal · 05/02/2018 12:29

Once you get bold enough to make that kind of claim all bets are off on the straining credulity front.

Exactly. And for narcissistic abusive types it's a game of "how much can I get away with."

AngryAttackKittens · 05/02/2018 12:04

Well, there have been multiple instances of TRAs claiming that it's impossible for a trans woman to rape a "cis" woman because "cis" women have more power, so. Once you get bold enough to make that kind of claim all bets are off on the straining credulity front.

OlennasWimple · 05/02/2018 12:02

The comments under the Jeff piece linked upthread are illuminating. One comment says that trans people can't bully because they don't have the power (conveniently overlooking the fact that bullying is exactly what happened to Jeff)

ijustwannadance · 05/02/2018 11:18

So TRAs hate women, lesbians, gay men and trans men. So basically anyone who wouldn't find them sexually attractive then?

Jeff's article was awful. They are attacking those who gave spent their lives fighting for their community and people are too scared to back up people like Jeff due to the backlash. They ruined his life, yet for some reason are untouchable.

mirime · 05/02/2018 10:48

I've shouted at my husband a number of times - am I married to a woman, I wonder

I guess he is. Maybe he doesn't realise it yet?

Their arguments make my head hurt they're so wrong.

CAAKE · 05/02/2018 10:30

I've shouted at my husband a number of times - am I married to a woman, I wonder?

Ereshkigal · 05/02/2018 10:26

Why the fuck shouldn't she have shouted at him? He started off shouting at her. I'd have done exactly the same.

OvaHere · 05/02/2018 10:10

Because they wouldn't dare do that to a man.

Does this make Harvey Weinstein a woman too?

mirime · 05/02/2018 10:02

Rose needs to calm down a little?

I've just been reading on Twitter that if Andi was a man Rose wouldn't have shouted at him therefore he's really a woman. And the way the 'terfs' are doing him down proves he's a woman as well. Because they wouldn't dare do that to a man.

Which is ignoring the fact that it's Rose who's being accused of breaking down and being hysterical. Because that's what actually happens if a woman gets upset and emotional towards a man.

And usually I'll happily call someone anything they want within reason, I don't care how you live your life as long as it's not hurting anyone else. But I can't call this person a woman.

Mrsmiguelcervantes · 05/02/2018 08:36

Elephant Journal weighing in with their tuppence worth of raw misogyny today - apparently Rose needs to ‘calm down a little’ and Andi Dier has every right to be angry.

FB link if you feel moved to comment m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155972505064223&id=59317784222

Datun · 05/02/2018 07:07

NotAWhacktivist

That link is appalling. A man who refused to be called a cis man has been hounded out of both his job and his home!

AngryAttackKittens · 05/02/2018 03:59

In the event that lots of TRA GFs show up I'm more than happy to be the one to play bad cop and smack them down so anyone who's of a gentler disposition doesn't have to deal with them.

NotAWhacktivist · 05/02/2018 03:38

I know! I wonder how many other victims he has had? That story goes beyond him though and is a terrible indictment of current transactivism

thebewilderness · 05/02/2018 03:28

Since he is an abusive male and a sexual predator who preys on little girls I am guessing he was putting on a male dominance display.
People certainly show just how afraid of male violence they are when they start every statement with I'm not anti trans.

NotAWhacktivist · 05/02/2018 03:19

Another story about the person who interuppted Rose McGowan www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/6/16/1393668/-I-am-not-an-Anti-Trans-Activist-I-am-the-victim-of-Anti-Cisgender-Activists

Whinberry · 05/02/2018 00:57

Haven't read the whole thread (just got to page 9) but I am confused. This Andi decided to shout at Rose because several months earlier Rose said transwomen are transwomen and not women. But in protesting this demands to know what Rose is doing to help transwomen? So do they or don't they think they are transwomen?

OvaHere · 04/02/2018 22:42

DM comments are always painful. The majority just seem interested in a WWE style showdown between anyone they consider SJWs. I don't think for the most part they view feminists and TRAs as being different from each other.

LastGirlOnTheLeft · 04/02/2018 22:33

I have just had a roasting on the Daily Mail comments site....I can't believe how utterly stupid the readership is!!! And almost all English!!!Shock

weetabix07 · 04/02/2018 19:53

Andi Dyer.