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Is "cis" the future ?

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matt1978 · 01/02/2018 04:43

I will admit to being new to the topic and still reading but many threads on here have lead me to further reading. I don't think I've ever bothered with the whole feminist thing until now when I see it being threatened by the trans agenda. Im starting to now feel much more protective about women's rights perhaps it's because I'm older or perhaps in my lifetime there's never been a threat to it ? I'm fearful to say even that for being accused of transphobia and I have no issue at all with anyone living their life as they wish - but I have a daughter and am now fearful for the future - will she have safe women only spaces ? Possibly not. Will she have to call herself a cis woman rather than just a woman ?
I dislike the agenda that you cannot debate or disagree or you're a bigot . It seems so backwards and confusing
I feel ignorant about what's going on out there and would love some insight from better informed posters here .

OP posts:
UpstartCrow · 01/02/2018 14:56

Laine01 Its mildly interesting that you don't think women need women only spaces and services.

Why dont you support a third gender neutral option?

JuliannaBixby · 01/02/2018 14:47

Is it fuck. Over my (cis) body.

Laine01 · 01/02/2018 14:47

Hey if you believe my comment is not worth a response then feel free not to give one, I'll just continue with my belief that everyone can do what they wish as it is their life after all.

I am generally curious as to how it affects us women though? People can do what they feel is right and if they discover they are transgender they should absolutely be allowed to transition and I'll be behind them every step of the way because i believe in life, not suicide and death Smile

vesuvia · 01/02/2018 14:44

A historical/geographical point about the link between "cis" and "trans":

"Cis" and "trans" were used by the Ancient Romans to distinguish between Cisalpine Gaul (between Rome and the Alps) and Transalpine Gaul (beyond the Alps, from Rome's viewpoint). This concept is still used in geography today, e.g. Ciscaucasia versus Transcaucasia.

Geronimoleapinglizards · 01/02/2018 14:22

How is the transgender agenda "threatening" feminists?

Really?

Your comment sounds disingenuous and not worth a response.

And it doesn't threaten 'feminists', it threatens women

Laine01 · 01/02/2018 14:18

How is the transgender agenda "threatening" feminists? X

Datun · 01/02/2018 09:01

Most people have never even heard of the word cis.

And if you read any mainstream media below the line comments about this issue, you will see the general public saying things along the lines of

Oh, not this again.

Why are we pandering to such minority.

Do what you like, but stop shoving it down our throats.

From people who have no idea about the legal impact, or how misogynistic this ideology has become. They are simply fed up with hearing about it.

So the day someone is referred to as a cis woman or a cis man, in public and, upon questioning it, is told it's because they're not trans, is the day this will explode.

There is no way people will accept being renamed something in relation to, and entirely dependent upon, a minority that they are already sick of hearing about.

Like most women, I am not prepared to be renamed, in order that men who identify as women can claim my original name.

As to the rest of your post, there was a thread started here a while ago which broke down the various component parts of the ideology.

It might be useful, if you think there are gaps in your knowledge?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

LangCleg · 01/02/2018 08:45

I will NEVER accept the label "cis". OP, you are right to be worried. We all need to assert our own identities as women as loudly as we can.

LostSight · 01/02/2018 07:55

I’m the same OP. I grew up believing I could have equality and that we were almost there. Now I’m nearing 50 and I look back at my own life and wonder where that belief disappeared. It began to slip away as soon as I reached the workplace and accelerated when I had children.

Now I see signs everywhere that we are actually going backwards and along with many other women, I’m feeling angry and I’m casting round to see what I can do.

It’s frightening though, to raise one’s head above the parapet, because there’s a lot of bullying going on, but I’m working towards taking action and girding my loins to join in. You are not alone.

SporadicSpartacus · 01/02/2018 07:02

I identify as an isomer and your post literally just erased me.

OP, I think lots of women feel the same. The future does not look particularly bright for us at present, but we’re stubborn buggers and will keep fighting this.

Igneococcus · 01/02/2018 06:50

If you are not an isomer you cannot be cis.

You could also be a regulatory element that sits on the same DNA strand as the gene which transcription it regulates.
I refuse to use the term for anything else than that and isomers.

stoneagefertilitydoll · 01/02/2018 06:30

If cis is the future then I am a transwoman- because I've read both definitions, and that's the one I fit.

Of course in my, sex based world, I'm just a woman, because I don't believe that my sex is based on a soul rather than my body,and I don't believe 'woman' should suggest anything other than adult, human, female

thebewilderness · 01/02/2018 05:20

If you are not an isomer you cannot be cis.

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