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Lily Madigan has published an article.

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UpstartCrow · 01/02/2018 00:09

www.youngfabians.org.uk/transmisog

''100 years on since the first women got the vote, there are still inequalities in the feminist movement. Why are some feminists still failing transwomen?

The evidence is there if you look for it – Transphobic leaflets being given out in the safe zone at Labour annual conference; prominent party feminists suggesting violence against transwomen; someone being kicked out of a Labour Women’s Network party for harassing a teenage trans woman; fundraisers being started to try and legally challenge Labours trans-inclusive policies; transwomen being excluded from Labour run women’s events by a women’s officer. The list goes on.

Most state their actions aren’t transphobic at all, but they are merely seeking the protection of women’s spaces. Some go further, suggesting transwomen are men’s right activists working purposely to erode women’s hard won protects. They commonly misgender people like me as a means to belittle our experiences and score social media points. And so I think its fair we question how much authority they have as cis-women to decide whether they are being transphobic.''

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SmurfOrTerf · 06/02/2018 10:02

Well JC threw Abbott under a bus without a second thought. And like a good dutiful handmaiden she kept her mouth shut. I am sick of the LP now. I almost don't want to know my MP's views, because if she isn't gender critical she won't get my vote.

hipsterfun · 05/02/2018 22:43

Makes you wonder how Lily would cope with a fraction of the treatment Diane Abbott gets on a daily basis.

Ereshkigal · 05/02/2018 22:40

Yes, it wasn't aggressive at all!

MyOtherProfile · 05/02/2018 22:19

Witty, erudite and articulate!

TERFousBreakdown · 05/02/2018 21:25

I assumed you were Helen A Handcart...

I wasn't Helen A Handcart until about 5 minutes before my 1st post on the subject. Grin

Now that my 2nd online persona is out: can we agree that it wasn't a particularly aggressive tweet?

Somewhat sarcastic? Definitely! Witty? Questionable! Threatening in any way? Nope!

MyOtherProfile · 05/02/2018 21:21

Did you get blocked? I assumed you were Helen A Handcart...

OnTheList · 05/02/2018 20:56

I do wonder how they make sense of it in their heads. Self identified woman is fine. But self identified BAME is not. When really sex is binary and race really is a spectrum.

Traffig · 05/02/2018 20:48

You need a cunning disguise.
Please end all twits with " babes".

boatyardblues · 05/02/2018 20:30

That was zero fun, TERF. We couldn’t even place bets. Shock

SmurfOrTerf · 05/02/2018 20:18

That was fast

TERFousBreakdown · 05/02/2018 20:02

For someone who hates no-platforming, LM is very loathe to let diverse opinions be heard

Indeed! I wasn't even really offensive. Slightly sarcastic in tone, perhaps, but surely this is rather typical of a) British and b) internet culture?

Traffig · 05/02/2018 19:53

TERFousBreakdown
Stunned ...as in Monty Python's Norwegian Blue. Shock

OlennasWimple · 05/02/2018 19:50

Ha ha! Grin

For someone who hates no-platforming, LM is very loathe to let diverse opinions be heard

Ereshkigal · 05/02/2018 19:46

Wow Grin

TERFousBreakdown · 05/02/2018 19:41

Update: don't bother placing your bets. The answer is: faster than I was able to type out the above and submit the post.

Traffig · 05/02/2018 19:41

Self IDing as Tocharian of the Tarim Basin heritage for BAME.

I might also stand for Youth officer being (in my mind) yooful, young at heart, and...erm... innit?.

TERFousBreakdown · 05/02/2018 19:40

LM "supports the call for all BAME shortlists"! Might be worth joining twitter just to ask whether self-identified BAME people are eligible for inclusion on those

Done. New Twitter account, new username on here, because, no, I have no intention to lose my livelihood over a narcissistic youngster with a questionable sense of fashion.

Anyone willing to bet on how long it'll take until I'm blocked?

Fekko · 05/02/2018 18:39

No comment? Just try shutting him up!

MrGHardy · 05/02/2018 18:33

"and seek to present me in an unfair light, often pushing lies as fact and allowing me no comment - the real no-platforming"

Lily wrote that (can't be arsed to suffer through reading the article)? Interesting, Trump tactics to the core, do something and accuse your opponents of it. Lily both pushes lies and tries to no-platform opponents.

MyOtherProfile · 05/02/2018 17:05

Might be worth joining twitter just to ask whether self-identified BAME people are eligible for inclusion on those
Oh please do!
And I have to laugh at the ad that keeps coming up on this thread!

Lily Madigan has published an article.
CrustyCob · 05/02/2018 13:31

I refuse to suffer an attack of the vapours.

BossyBitch · 05/02/2018 12:31

You really couldn't make it up!

I'm now totally running as a trans male Asian Muslim OAP. In this capacity I'm also demanding my pension! Why don't they pay me my pension???

OlennasWimple · 05/02/2018 12:22

Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

LM "supports the call for all BAME shortlists"! Might be worth joining twitter just to ask whether self-identified BAME people are eligible for inclusion on those Grin

LapdanceShoeshine · 04/02/2018 13:24

Newspapers never publish every letter they’re sent (except desperate local papers, probably). Though the Indie doesn’t print any more, does it, so no space constraints.

It’ll be interesting to see if this one appears...

Elendon · 04/02/2018 09:38

And I will say this again. I know one of those Labour Councillors who support Lily and self id for AWS. They have been openly critical of AWS in the past.