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BBC - Who, or what, defines you as a woman?

33 replies

Minerva1234 · 30/01/2018 20:57

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-42864916/who-or-what-defines-you-as-a-woman

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ExFunFeminist · 30/01/2018 21:20

It was not very informative for anyone not familiar with what the actual concerns are. And I don't think Linda Bellos is the best speaker on the subject, and not just because she is now associated with comments taken out of context in which she appeared to be willing to use violence. But she seems to be the go-to person lately who the BBC choose to represent feminists in interviews regarding trans issues.

OvaHere · 30/01/2018 21:18

It also didn't remotely attempt to answer the premise of the video - Who, or what, defines you as a woman? Hmm

BarrackerBarmer · 30/01/2018 21:18

The fundamental conflict:

Why can a man assert he is NOT a man like other men
but
a woman is not allowed to assert she is NOT like that man

Even whilst the whole world observes that her claim has an obvious merit that his lacks?

Either we ALL have the right to say "I am NOT like you" and evidence this, or NONE of us should have it.

I want the right to say "I AM NOT LIKE A TRANSWOMAN" and have society accept that unequivocal truth

HomeTerf · 30/01/2018 21:17

And the inclusion of the legal expert saying transpeople are already using the spaces and facilities of their chosen gender (in the tone of someone reassuring a four year old about monsters under the bed) was pretty disingenuous.

SpartacusReality · 30/01/2018 21:13

Yes it gives the impression of being balanced, while missing out a huge part of the picture. Obviously no mention of the many sex offenders who say that they are trans and the current risk to women prisoners.

HomeTerf · 30/01/2018 21:11

That's the 'Introduction to Transgender Issues'; the bit where we're all nodding along happily with the perfectly decent people, before the dark plot twist is revealed.

Which is pretty fecking annoying, because they're pretending there is no dark plot twist.

SpartacusReality · 30/01/2018 21:11

I was expecting the film to be very pro trans as the BBC love a good trans video. It initially gave the impression of being balanced by mentioning the violence of some activists - and it did have some words from Linda Bellos. But it didn't have any discussion or comment whatsoever of safety risks to women or of the safeguarding risks to children - just a wishy washy mention of women's spaces with no explanation of the actual impact on women.

Biologicalreality · 30/01/2018 21:08

Thanks for posting. Yet again it doesn't deal with the huge issue of 'what stops someone who 'isn't truly trans' using this to harm women'.