Bluestocking lock in!

I'm looking for a thread that mentioned a debate in the pages of Bella Caledonia. I contributed and wanted to mention it but I can't find the thread!

bellacaledonia.org.uk/2018/01/23/gender-recognition-its-not-what-you-think/

Moth that article was such a depressing read, but very good. And I agree: if we want to fight this shit, we have to have men on our side too.

Mmm- Irish Coffee.........

Afternoon. I'm here to have big full fat frothy cappuccino if the pub does them. This outdoes an insipid herbal tea any day of the week. Hi Moth yes I agree completely about porn's influence in RL and the supposed empowerment argument.

Hello everyone!

Morning.

Morning all. Cup of tea, please, Earl Grey if you have it (too early for anything stronger).

Morning . Just catching up listening to Linda Bellos on world at one yesterday. Uplifting and depressing at the same time.

BlindYeo, I agree about the abuse angle. It’s sickening. I think he did a good job of dismissing the consenting actor’s personal empowerment argument, which is trotted out so predictably. It’s irrelevant whether the individual porn actor is a consenting adult and/or feels personal empowerment. Porn doesn’t exist in a fantasy wankbubble: it influences real men’s views of real women in the real world.

Hello, I'm popping in for a quick tipple before bed.

I've just read the linked article on porn Quentin. God it's depressing and I think I must now make my drink a double. I don't know where to start anymore with porn, it's so ubiquitous. The article has made it clearer to me though that what is on view is abuse though rather than 'sex' which I will say next time this crops up in conversation in my RL.

I suppose the only smidgen of comfort is that the article is written by a man and there was a man in the comments below talking about a network of men trying to help on this issue. Another comment was spot on, pointing out that men have to put their money where their mouth is on equality and stop watching this shit. But I cannot imagine this shit ever going away to any great degree now. Ever. How are feminists getting any purchase on this issue at the moment politically? I'm totally out of the loop.

I think my cosy murder post was the last, I was hoping we could talk about those!

My colleague also told me something about a small village having poison pen letters. Maybe he's setting up to write a cosy murder novel of his own.

"To me, it just feels like 2 opposing types of mens club are fighting over who gets to be top dog."

Yy upstart. :(

And here is my post to Hairy that disappeared at the end of the last thread because I was too slow:

I do like a whodunnit and hadn’t heard of Fiona Veitch Smith. I’ve had a look and may give her a go. Jazz Files puts me in mind of Ngaio Marsh’s Swing, Brother, Swing. I can’t now remember the plot but I remember enjoying it!

Hey Quentin. The darts was another thing I wanted to post about and didn’t! The BBC sport facebook post about it was deluged with “PC gone mad!” comments, many of them from women. I found it so disheartening. I really like darts - I watched the Masters at the weekend. The fans didn’t seem any less pissed enthusiastic for the lack of glittery totty.

I guess we are moving in the right direction in a lot of ways.

The US is voting on an abortion ban after 20 weeks. The Right is moving towards a very conservative form of fascism.
To me, it just feels like 2 opposing types of mens club are fighting over who gets to be top dog.