Bluestocking lock in!

Vsorry i should have been more clear

Is there any chance I could get to a decent standard eg be able to draw a vase of flowers or something? I couldn't even draw an apple when I was a teen!

can I teach myself to draw?

Yep, loads of books out there giving basic instructions

And on the internet now i think of it...

Today's random points

I'm starting to dislike Twitter, used to be a fan. Things have become so self referential it's hard to know what people are saying. Frankly it's making me understand Jordan Peterson's points about identity politics giving us less and less space to be more than one thing.

Other random point, can I teach myself to draw? I have a DC book and thought, oh, hmm, maybe it's something I can learn as an adult even if I was rubbish as a kid? I don't recall being properly taught tbh.

Cheers waddle.
I think it suggests that mum 25 is fairly new to MN.

Glad it wasn't just me!

Yeah

Its the 'hun' and love bit i remember...

Pickle i read that first 25 post as sarcasm too

Woman
we'd be going for a "most efficient way to pass exams and learn stuff we find useful and stimulating" model if that makes sense!

It does! Lots depends on if your children are at exam point now or not (some HE kids do gcses a few at a time but early) but generally flr time efficiency i would say tutor, online learning, study groups, college. I would get in touch with your local he groups (lots on facebook but there are others) explain you are considering he & go along to a few meets & talk

It will give you a better idea of what social stuff there is too there will be loads

I hoped my post was fairly bland looking... it was crisps thread about the article. I completely misread one poster. Such a cliche, hun, I hope you are ok because You are so lovely and beautiful and we all love you hun.

Oh no wait

I remember it now

What now pickle

Is that crisps new thread

I know people can see the pub thread but it feels like they cant see it...i know thats dumb

woman

Friends of mine homeschooled

Their children went to maths and science lessons (I remember those particularly) with other home educated children and they met up on a very regular basis to do activities

I actually thought 'Mum to be 25's' post on crisp butty's thread was sarcastic. I'm losing my wits.

Errol, noted, my friends agree with you - not specifically about the journey but about school as socialisation.

Waddle, hmm, we'd be going for a "most efficient way to pass exams and learn stuff we find useful and stimulating" model if that makes sense!

no, what I mean is, we have to teach them full stop, so become parents and teachers. Does that make sense?

It depends what kind of HE suits your family. If you use a school at home model then yes you are their teacher but not the way we (& lots of other families) HE because i dont tell them they have to for example do maths now, i do tell them they have to brush their teeth! Fwiw my kids love maths...

The HE board on here is quiet but there are probably old threads you would find useful to get a picture of how different people HE.

Plus remove time for walking to school or bus ride as it will be later on...and the pointless play time

Both of those things (and a lot of the non-teaching time in school hours) will be socialising with their peers. Which is (IME) extremely valuable.

thanks Waddle

Oh I see.

no, what I mean is, we have to teach them full stop, so become parents and teachers. Does that make sense?

so if they are pissed off with a teacher they can come and tell us.

if they are finding it hard to spend a lot of the day with us....but then again, I honestly feel that the total teaching hours per day, even for passing exams etc, must be much lower than school attendance. Plus remove time for walking to school or bus ride as it will be later on...and the pointless play time, time wasted in registration, swapping classrooms, blah blah.....or wear your Easter bonnet etc.

never heard of unschooling - will look it up.

Ken Robinson's TED talk about creativity and education might help with your fitting into the workforce questions.

Autonomously or self directed. Unschooling is similar but we have bedtimes for my sanity & very limited screens.
My kids learn what they want to; I facilitate rather than teach.

more thinking aloud on this

another comment made to me was that children have to learn to socialise in a traditional school environment or they won't be able to integrate in a workplace

my sister didn't fit in to school at all - but okay, she was there.

she has taken to a traditional office work place just fine.

but also one of my other things is, the rural living and HE gives them two options hopefully - one is to inherit a place of reasonable self sufficiency and more money than if we went in for consumerism, the second option is that they can join regular other workplaces if that's what they want.

does this make sense? I've no thought of depriving them of TV, internet etc and I'm aware there will be a certain amount of driving them to meet friends and what have you and no telling them to just get on a bus. But the 2 option thing really strikes me. I think rural living and land will get more and more expensive.

well everything will get more expensive I suppose....

Waddle, sorry, what does that mean?

I meant DC seeing you as parent and teacher....maybe I'm overthinking this....

Rufus "My children were bemoaning the fact that some of their peers rock up to school with the obligatory costa coffee , tha they have to walk past the school to buy"

yes. I remember the children at my school who were labelled odd because they didn't meet norms...but they did seem to be fine. I wonder, have things become more vicious and less tolerant though? So a child sticks out more now than they did in the 80s and 90s?

Woman we HE autonomously which means there is no extra burden of authority beyond usual parenting stuff

A lot of time is wasted

You could easily get the same amount of a days education into 3 hours...maybe even less

My children were bemoaning the fact that some of their peers rock up to school with the obligatory costa coffee , tha they have to walk past the school to buy

Rufus, yes, rural.

I would want an internet connection. What I can't fathom at the moment is the endless consumerism, obsession with coffee shops and eating out.

also I feel as if a lot of time at school is utterly wasted but - sorry if repeating myself - I think one issue with home education is the unpleasantness of being an authority figure to your DC in another way.

Oh sorry woman

If your children are young enough then it would be an awesome thing to do

Were you thinking of very rural?

I would have loved to take the children off grid

Always been slightly envious of those people who take their children on a boat to foreign climes

And then we have a game of cards with them and the urge passes

We've just built a shed that we are furnishing as a pub...eventually. Dh has ideas of us getting away from it all with the children...at the bottom of the garden