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Bluestocking lock in!

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QuentinSummers · 29/01/2018 22:00

Posted a whole thing on the last thread and it was locked!

Last thread here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3062013-The-Bluestocking-is-open-for-business
Here's my post replying to Moth
Thats an interesting article moth. Best not on the board or MRAs would be all over it!
I was wondering today, hopefully, if the news about darts getting rid of the girls means the overton window is shifting and maybe p0rn will become less acceptable?
If not all this hooha about F1 girls and the presidents club is just tinkering on the edges.

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WomaninGreen · 04/05/2018 00:20

*made

The next drink shall be my last before bed!

WomaninGreen · 04/05/2018 00:19

That me lol properly
Thank you Grin

Weezol · 03/05/2018 23:59

Two fish in a tank. One looks at the other and says "Can you remember how to drive this thing?"

WomaninGreen · 03/05/2018 23:52

I'm up late drinking because of a mother in hospital tomorrow thing (not a driver so don't worry).

Anyone got any jokes?

QuentinSummers · 03/05/2018 21:39

I have MH issues too and as I get older I am realising more and more they are caused by being female (how men treat me and female socialization) Sad

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MissMoneyPlant · 03/05/2018 21:36

Thank you Blush
It's difficult to put into words, but I can't separate my feminism from the context/experiences I've had around mental health. My goodness, I wish I'd had someone from the FWR board (maybe Datun!) to sit me down and give me feminism 101 years ago. It should be standard for all women with MH issues. (That and Relationships.) Grin

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 03/05/2018 20:19

missmoney

Hello Smile

picklemepopcorn · 03/05/2018 17:44

Can't imagine anything that 'disqualifies' you from feminist spaces. Welcome.

QuentinSummers · 03/05/2018 17:40

Here you go

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2685197-Feminism-psychiatry-and-Mumsnet

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AssassinatedBeauty · 03/05/2018 17:38

I remember that thread Quentin, it was very useful to think about mental health services and attitudes to women.

Have a Wineor a Brew, the pub is a nice place to hang out, @MissMoneyPlant

QuentinSummers · 03/05/2018 17:36

There was a thread a while back about psychiatry and feminism that I will try to dig out for you
Flowers
You are among friends here

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Theinconstantgardener · 03/05/2018 17:32

And echo what womaninGreen said

Theinconstantgardener · 03/05/2018 17:31

Psyc system pathologising life experiences
Read that alot on Feminism chat over the years. Not to minimise what you are going through of course. What im trying to say i think , albeit not very well, is that you are not alone.

WomaninGreen · 03/05/2018 16:18

hi MissMoneyPlant

what can I get you to drink?

as far as I'm concerned you can talk about whatever you want to talk about here. And I'm sorry you've had to deal with shit. Flowers

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MissMoneyPlant · 03/05/2018 13:55

Can't really talk to anyone anywhere about it. Being a feminist with mental health issues (not even sure about that name, it's not all my "mental health" it's life/society issues too!) means I feel different or even not welcome in both mental health and feminist spaces.

It just seems as if a woman struggling with absuive man = feminist support, speaking out on her behalf, running refuges, etc, looking at social context. But if that woman has developed a trauma reaction to that, and is thrust into the mental health system, then she's othered, wash our hands of her, not relevant, and even supporting the awful psych system in pathologising her life experiences.

I keep wanting to start a thread, but not feeling strong enough.

Theinconstantgardener · 03/05/2018 13:22

MissMoneyPlant
Sorry you are feeling bad. No need to apologise. Yes I would say the bluestocking is safe. From personal experience of telling my story - was supported by other posters here. Flowers
Can you talk to a trusted person irl?

MissMoneyPlant · 03/05/2018 13:15

Is the blustocking safe, when you're having memories of terrible things that have happened that mean you don't belong with other feminists? Can I hide in the corner with a glass of red and know I'm in company where what men have done to me isn't belittled or blamed on me because I have the misfortune to have been labelled by psychiatry, when I was just suffering and in pain?
Does anybody understand?
I feel so alone, I'm so sorry.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:50

I was well chuffed when dd showed a tiny degree of ability when she was about 8

Bought books for her and ds2

I used them more Grin

But i stopped again...maybe I'll start up one day

WomaninGreen · 01/05/2018 20:48

I won't go to classes but when I've got through the DC animals book Grin I'll get a book for flowers, or just base drawing for adults

Today we've done elephants! I think I had more fun than they did Grin

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:39

Your ...not youre

Stupid fingers

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:39

I would also look at some adult education classes as well

Maybe have a look at some of the basic books like 'learn to draw..', (you can get flower specific ones) and have a little fiddle first just so you get the idea

There are probably some online tutorials but i would stick with step by step line drawings that you can copy to start

You start simple and then work up the higher levels til you get to youre 'happy place'

WomaninGreen · 01/05/2018 20:34

Ooh id be happy if I could draw to GCSE standard

I think it would be a nice hobby and a good discipline for me.

Rufustheconstantreindeer · 01/05/2018 20:25

Sorry I should be clearer Grin

Yes there is

Most people can draw with a bit of technical help and loads and loads of practice

Its the practice...and most people give up

You may never have the talent but you can certainly gain the ability

I used to be able to draw at half decent picture but i didnt put the practice in

I was talking to a friend about it the other day, her son can do art at GCSE but will never set the world alight...he is happy with that