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Why DO people 'believe' transwomen are women?

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AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 26/01/2018 12:36

Actually why?

Because the act of 'believing' without evidence or logic is cult like ideology to me.

The repetition of 'transwomen ARE women' on twitter, facebook etc is like a mantra of a cult. Like repeating the rosary or something, and the more that it repeated, the more people double down in their thinking.

I really feel bewildered half the time now.

It feels like a cult

Like a cult or religion, I guess people are free to believe what they want.

But we are not forced to believe other people's religious beliefs; why are we being forced to believe that 'transwomen are women' and 'transmen are men', when there is no objective, material truth in that statement

It's the new Reformation, but logical thinkers, not Catholics, are being hounded out and targetted.

It's mind blowing

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iamawoman · 26/01/2018 13:14

Any discussion or debate is shutdown with accusations of transphobia / bigotry. Please someone define a transwoman for a start as what i can see this ranges from someone who has had all the surgery and hormones to remove as much maleness as possible and presents to the world as female to someone who externally presents as male but who claims that their inner identity is female or they feel female yet has little or no lived experience as a woman such as lily madigan. I really feel for some transwomen that just want to live a normal life as possible but there is a growing malevolence out there which seems to be directing a lot of hatred towards what they term as ciswomen

stitchglitched · 26/01/2018 13:11

I was just thinking exactly the same redexpat!

redexpat · 26/01/2018 13:10

Everytime I see it I think 4 legs good, 2 legs bad.

Oooocrikeyitscold · 26/01/2018 13:09

Why do you care either way?!

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FlaviaAlbia · 26/01/2018 12:56

I think some of the men who say it consider trans women to be "not men" so therefore they must be women... They find it easier to accept someone being 'born in the wrong body' than being a man who wears a dress.

Until they're expected to have a relationship with one anyway.

BigDeskBob · 26/01/2018 12:53

I don't think anyone believes it. I think people say these men are women because they think they are being kind, or are scared to say any thing different, or simply don't care. Some people will say men are women, because women doesn't mean 'adult human female', but is a stereotype instead.

stitchglitched · 26/01/2018 12:53

They don't believe it, deep down. They say they do in order to virtue signal and refuse to engage in debate because they know that it is a phrase that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny. The guy on twitter who was lecturing women on this and then had to painfully backtrack once he realised that he might have to consider transwomen as sexual partners sums the whole thing up really. A meaningless mantra that is used to silence dissenters and must not be looked at in any depth otherwise the whole thing falls apart.

Count2three · 26/01/2018 12:52

I’m utterly mortified by this and identity politics in general. What can we actually do to challenge this?

Love51 · 26/01/2018 12:50

Because the word transwoman has the word woman in it, so it sounds like the word is describing a sub group of women. Black women, white women, disabled women, post menopausal women, trans women.
People don't 'think' they use intuition. And transwomen intuitively sounds like it is just another group in that list.

AnachronisticCorpse · 26/01/2018 12:48

The other weird thing is the insistence that Trans are the most victimised and oppressed group out of everybody ever.

Lolwhut?

AnachronisticCorpse · 26/01/2018 12:42

It is utterly bizarre.

And stating material facts is now classed as hate speech, and is leading to people losing their jobs and memberships. It’s insane.